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- cross-posted to:
- privacy@programming.dev
I’m gonna delete the account after selling my Quest 2 for the Steam Frame
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I understand there’s arguments about “this is not new, they’ve been working on VR for a decade” - fine, but it’s Zuckerberg, who apparently never does anything in good faith (see: the Winklevoss twins, Whatsapp, Snapchat, Libra, etc)
I’m sure they only have VR in order to onboard people to blue app. People have gotten banned and their only recourse is to buy an Oculus. Convenient.
Wasn’t that the obvious deal from the beginning? You buy the subsidized hardware and ignore Facebook’s gravity as long as you can. That’s the catch for the low price.
Anyone who thought otherwise is, well, thinking wishfully.
Big tech in general. At this point the only one I still have faith in not too fuck over customers “because they can” is Valve.
People who bought this hardware are dumb fucks.
Even if rooted and used without account via PrivateQuest?
Cassandrafatigue doesn’t know anything about what they are talking about.
Fitting username at least.
Setup a fake account. Use a friend’s bday you’ll remember. Its not hard. That’s like saying “people who use email are dumb fucks” since they also ask for bdays.
God forbid people enjoy some vr.
You think that’s all they collect? You bought one, didn’t you?
My kids got one. We don’t have FB accounts. I have pihole setup as my DNS, don’t have cable, use Firefox and ublock, ads mean fuck all to me. I ride the high seas, have been since Napster. I pay for what I like, avoid what I don’t.
I’m old enough that if there is something they don’t know about me, it’s not hard to find. People act like a company knowing their name and adress is going to send them to a early grave or something.
You need to find your balance of security and convenience and learn to live your life.
Your…name and address? What century is this?
You keep asking questions and providing nothing. Put up or shut up.
You want my name and address? That seems kind of rude. Why?
In what way did I ask for that?
It’s hardware that can be used with SteamVR or load opensource VR apps directly onto it like DoomVR.
This is almost like someone complaining, “Facebook messenger is asking for my birthdate on the 120hz 1440p monitor that Facebook sold me for half price.” and you reply, “People who bought a PC monitor are dumb fucks.”
It is cheap 3d goggles that display what your PC sends it. Just like your monitor. You don’t have to use Meta’s software. You definitely don’t need to use Meta’s VR Chat app (That’s Horizon that the OP references.)_
Meta is selling VR at a loss like a console where they make up the loss with software game sales. But unlike a Switch/PS5, you don’t have to buy their games. So the real idiot is anyone who wants VR and doesn’t buy a Meta product. Buying a Quest and then using SteamVR causes Meta to lose money.
I’m paraphrasing the guy who owns it. A known and verified quote that was leaked years ago.
I’d ask how you don’t know this but it’s pretty clear you bought one.
I bought them for my kids. I didn’t buy it until you could use it without a Facebook account.
I recognized the quote. But as I explained it doesn’t apply because the dumb fucks are those that can’t see buying a loss leader hardware product and then not using it the way they planned hurts Facebook.
Tankies give the order of Lenin. I say rationalization should get the order of… Gladwell or iglacias? One of those guys.
There really weren’t any comparable standalone alternatives at the time. I just wanted to play some Beatsaber back then.
Paraphrasing the guy who owns the company.
Not that he wasn’t entirely correct.
My birthday is always January 1st of 2000. It used to be in 20th century but I didn’t want to give away my real age.
It used to be in 20th century but I didn’t want to give away my real age.
I take it you’re turning 125 next Thursday?
I’m guessing their real birthday is probably January 1, 1970; just like every Steam user.
Source if my guess: I was born on January 1 of 1970.
I’ll sell them my birth date information. They already got their filthy lucre from buying and selling my name all over the place, why shouldn’t I get a cut from things I own?
This is why tech giants want to dissolve governments and the regulatory agencies.
This is why tech ceos need to be afraid to leave their bunkers.
on that note I finally deleted facebook. Goodbye meta!
Better late than never!
A good opportunity to ditch Meta if you’re still using it for some reason.
Can’t, need the Marketplace, unfortunately.
MySpace marketplace?
I’ve had an account under a nickname for coordinating dog meetups for ages. One day the account was suddenly blocked without prior notice and the only way they would let me in again is by giving them my ID, which would not help as the account was under my nick and I would never give them my ID anyway. They didn’t even let me delete that effing zombie account without identifying my name as real or even just change the Nick to something FB recognises as real name.
They’ll ghost you even if you do give them everything they ask for. I can’t even make a new account under my real name or anything close to it anymore.
It sucks it’s the only realistic platform for discovering and getting info from interest groups in my area.
the only realistic platform
you know of, I don’t know where you live (nor do I want to) but alternatives do exist and if not you can self host some.
Ah shit you’re right! They’re going to love having their social media on stevesbasement.social. So accessible to the general public!
Your sarcasm and learned helplessness help BigTech. I didn’t say it was easy, I said it was feasible.
I’m not denying it’s technically feasible. I do deny learned helplessness. I have limited energy in life. Using it on making a change I’m not passionate about is a recipe for severe burnout. If i get more involved and find there’s sentiment towards a migration away from FB then I’d spend some energy on building and facilitating that. Barging in and making demands isn’t an effective way to build community. You can introduce ideas and develop them over time to show that it comes from care for and dedication to the org.
So yeah it’s unrealistic on the time scales I’m concerned with.
When you generalize your position about your available time and technical knowledge as the limiting factor for everybody you are not saying it’s impossible for you, you’re saying it’s impossible for anybody and everybody. That’s the problem. It’s like saying “I don’t like this food” versus “It tastes bad!”. For you they are equivalent, for others they are totally different. I’m not saying you, or anybody else, should learn about self-hosting (federated) social platforms then set some up, what I’m rejecting instead is giving up pre-emptively on the behalf of others because it’s giving power back to BigTech.
December 7, 1941.
How to tell the techs you’re lying without telling the client
I do 1/1/1984 but also a good idea
…so far, it seems like all the platforms accept january 1st 1900 without issue…
1 jan 1970
…too plausible to make the statement unambiguous…
Was unaware of the steam frame, thanks for putting them on my radar! Wonder how they’ll fare as a monitor replacement for dev work. I’ve seen people use the apple goggles for that because they’re pretty high res. Seemed pretty cool
First of all what is Facebook? Who even has Facebook? And why have it?
Delete your facebook accounts
I can’t even access any Fakebook crap, because I have blocked any Zuckerbot service since a long time. It don’t exist anymore for me in the web.
What’s this extension?
Desktop app Portmaster
wtf I deleted my account a year ago.
Just lie and make up a fake birthday
I use December 31, 1969. Before Unix time.
And a fake name.
And a fake face.
I don’t think they care if its your real birthday. They just want the data. Deny them the data, don’t use the service.
Is garbage data worse than no data?
No. It means you’re still theirs and so badly you’ll even lie for them. And you don’t have the backbone to say no.
