Playing some Counter-Strike 2 and then a GNOME donation notification pops up 😅

  • Seefra 1@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    28 days ago

    Nevermind the donation pop-up, how can people use gnome? It’s unusable, it interface is literally the worse UI I’ve ever had the displeasure of using only second to macOS.

    I believe that gnome is actually what is keeping many people away from gnu/linux, since it’s default on many distros, people install “linux” and they get gnome and gnome sucks so they hate on linux instead of hating gnome.

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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      12 days ago

      it’s particularly baffling since KDE plasma is at this point kiiiiiinda just the best desktop, including windows and mac.
      By default it just works as 90% of people would expect it to, and if you want to you can customize it into something unrecognizable and it’ll outright help you to do so.

      It’s so fucking good that i switched to it just because my mom has it on her laptop and it looked fucking sweet

      • Jhex@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        28 days ago

        I was into it back when Gnome 3 came out… the problem is that I had to fill too many “holes” (for me, maybe not for everyone) in the functionality with extensions and those were quirky as fuck. You never knew what was going to stop working (or work differently) any day but without them, I could not function properly

        And just to give you an idea of how tolerant I am with risk… my daily driver now is Garuda Linux with Hyprland instead of a desktop that I configured from scratch… my browser of choice is FireDragon which is a fork of Floorp which is a fork of Firefox

        I am certain it is better now than it was back then… but once you are comfortable with an environment, it is a pretty tall order to switch around.

    • yogurtwrong@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      28 days ago

      Well, I use it, I like it, and I can confidently say it’s not for everyone

      You gotta think the gnome way. Like, for example, I don’t feel the absence of the minimize button because I adopted gnome’s workspace-based flow

      It doesn’t get in my way, I don’t even feel its existence most of the time. Gnome 3 sucked and definitely got in my way but beware that I am talking about gnome 4x here.

    • Soup@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      28 days ago

      What’s wrong with the MacOS UI? It works pretty well, and is pretty easy to pick up. Some of the biggest complaining I heard back in the day is that the close/min/max buttons were on the other side and someone who can’t handle that doesn’t have an opinion worth entertaining. Most of it was just a extreme refusal to learn out of spite which is more embarrassing for them than an argument.

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
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        28 days ago

        I don’t hate macOS, and I don’t even know if I consider it worse than Windows, but here are a few things I dislike.

        1. Overuse of icons with no clear way to turn on labels combined with a weirdly high time for tooltips to appear makes things confusing.
        2. Finder doesn’t have a way to just go up a directory or easily type/get the path of the current folder. The home folder is not in the shortcut area by default.
        3. “Alt tabbing” between windows behaves very differently, though it’s not necessarily worse, just different. Command tab switches programs. Command back tick switches windows of that program. So if you want to switch between windows of a browser it is a different shortcut. This one is entirely opinion based. But still, there’s no way to change the behavior.
        4. Notifications go away after a very short time period or stay forever. There isn’t an easy way to get them to stick around longer without making them stay until you dismiss them. It’d be nice to have a middle ground between a few seconds and forever.
        5. Closing a window doesn’t necessarily close a program. Like the “alt tabbing” thing this is opinion based too, because these approaches both technically predate the other approach. Sometimes you close a window and it has a dot on the task bar meaning it’s still running. It’s very odd.
    • IngeniousRocks (They/She) @lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      28 days ago

      Context: I’m an i3 and plasma user depenending on my machine with one exception.

      I find Gnome to be in the way 100% of the time, until I put the mist and konquer down and start using the touchscreen. Its a nice DE for touch oriented devices, but it really sucks to navigate with moist and keybread imho.

      Edit: the one time I don’t fix my spelling someone comes along and says something. I’m gonna make it worse 😈

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    28 days ago

    GNOME alone is like 60% of the reason why stock Ubuntu and all of its derivatives suck. It’s like a mashup of ChromeOS and MacOS, two of the most god awful UX designs this past decade.

    Compiz by itself kicks GNOME out of the water, despite it being a now legacy compositor from 2007.

    Most annoyingly, even RPM distros like Fedora offer it as default, despite having a fully supported KDE option right there, along with any other DE that you might want like XFCE, LXQt, Cinnamon, MATE, etc.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      28 days ago

      I don’t completely hate MacOS, it’s pretty nice IMO.

      GNOME instantly gets replaced by KDE Plasma though. With Cosmic also installed for some fun alpha testing.

    • Hubi@feddit.orgEnglish
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      30 days ago

      Whenever I start a game on my KDE desktop, the notifications get muted automatically. I have no idea why, because I really don’t remember setting it up. Maybe it’s a standard feature that was added at some point. It’s honestly pretty great though.

      • Linearity@piefed.auEnglish
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        30 days ago

        KDE turns on do not disturb mode when a program is in full screen mode by default.

        You can test this by binding DnD to a button (preferable Meta key + unused letter like F), opening a program in full screen mode and toggling DnD.

        This feature can be disabled in settings.

          • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            30 days ago

            Only KDE calls it “meta”. Everywhere else it’s either “super” or “mod4”. The left Alt is sometimes called “meta” or “mod1”.

      • passepartout@feddit.orgEnglish
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        30 days ago

        I think it’s a default. It also tells me how many notifications I missed after closing the game.

        • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pubEnglish
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          30 days ago
          I see you stopped playing because your game crashed.

You got 76 notifications in the 20 hours you were playing. Take a shower, drink some water, and get some sleep you slacker.
  • Cattypat@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    30 days ago

    I believe the notifications for donation on my KDE laptop (running Bazzite) are yearly so… hopefully you won’t be seeing it often

    • Keegen@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      30 days ago

      Recent versions of KDE also automatically enable Do Not Disturb mode whenever you launch a full-screen window so you won’t get interrupted by a notification anyway! Honestly surprised GNOME doesn’t do that as well.

        • imecth@fedia.io
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          29 days ago

          It’s easy to test with notify-send test, and yeah GNOME does block notifications while fullscreen applications are open. I wonder how that notification went through, maybe gamescope isn’t properly registering the fullscreen application or it’s x11 wine being the problem.

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            28 days ago

            My guess is they are using this:

            https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1610/fullscreen-notifications/

            I was also puzzling over this for a bit… I use Bazzite GNOME on a Deck, and I can’t recall ever getting a GNOME notification while in fullscreen anything, video or videogame, launched in desktop mode, and certainly never in the ‘game mode’ (I believe that is when gamescope is active, right? at least with the Deck variant of Bazzite?).

            But yeah anyway, this is my guess, the user manually installed this extension and is apparently annoyed that it is doing its intended function.

            … Either that, or… maybe they’re using a … somewhat to moderately out of date version of GNOME?

            • imecth@fedia.io
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              28 days ago

              I looked into it and the reason this is happening is because GNOME sets the notification to critical, and here is a design team member requesting that the notification be made urgent, as for why i can only guess.

              • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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                27 days ago

                Well, good work looking into it!

                But uh… oh neat, there’s a critical override behavior… for… effectively an advertisement… great.

                Rather concerning to watch what appear to be a bunch of GNOME devs rationalize opening up a very likely exploitable spear phishing vector because ‘donating to a non profit is good.’

                Welp, if/when that gets rolled out, I am guessing somebody is going to make some kind of extension or script that turns that shit off.

                • imecth@fedia.io
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                  27 days ago

                  Let’s put things into perspective, it’s a biyearly notification that sustains the entire gnome ecosystem, I’ll remind you that the GNOME foundation pays for the hosting costs, the paperwork and sometimes even development for the GNOME project that includes dozens of apps, libraries and GTK.

                  This is just the first implementation that will get ironed out in the next few years, like making sure it doesn’t pop up in full screen windows and if you read through the issue there will also be an opt out in the settings.

  • CodeBlooded@programming.devEnglish
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    28 days ago

    Arch user here who enjoys Gnome because I started my Linux journey over a decade ago with Ubuntu. Tell me which desktop environment I should be using. Which desktop environment will make me question why I’ve spent so much time with Gnome?

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      28 days ago

      They all have pros and cons. If you like how it works out of the box, you’ve already won.

      I ran Gnome for years with a collection of plugins and hidden gsettings to make it windows95-esque. Bottom bar, left apps, small bars, multi-screen, stacked windows, full time and date in the tray.

      And every gnome update, a plugin or two would break, and I’d go find someone else’s plugin that did the same thing, but wouldn’t break.

      Finally, I tried KDE on a new install, and it was exactly how I wanted it out, out of the box.

      It’s been a long time now. For all I know, Gnome supports all that up front in config.

      but if it’s how you want it, that’s all you need.

      • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        30 days ago

        Enrico Weigelt. He’s also an anti-vaxxer moron. To quote his own words on the LKML: https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2106.1/04542.html

        And I know a lot of people who will never take part in this generic human experiment that basically creates a new humanoid race (people who generate and exhaust the toxic spike proteine, whose gene sequence doesn’t look quote natural). I’m one of them, as my whole family.

        So yes, sure, nobody can stop people that think the pandemic is over (“we are vaccinated”) from meeting in person.

        Pandemic ? Did anybody look at the actual scientific data instead of just watching corporate tv ? #faucigate

        The only benefit I see in Xlibre is that it will attract idiots like him and and draw them away from projects with real merit.