Do you think it really doesn’t train on your data?
I’ve been using it and it looks good so far, I just ask simple questions and never let the context get too big.
It’s good that it doesn’t require login, just open and ask something.
Duck.ai is a saas, I can never be 100% sure that information sent to it is private, the only way to use an LLM privately is to run it locally.
Do you think it really doesn’t train on your data?
That is very unlikely, duck.ai doesn’t brew it’s own in-house AI, they run models made by third parties like Mistral, Facebook and openAI.
As far as non-local LLM inferencing goes, I think duck. Ai offers the most privacy-friendly service.
While it’s impossible to warranty privacy, you can warranty anonymity, because duck.ai is accessible over tor.
They constantly measure DomRect using javascript, which is a unique hardware-based metric that can be used to track individual users.
Imagine the cost of running duck.ai. What exactly is the revenue that it brings in?
Of course, if it were some honeypot, using DomRects to track users (and DomRect is not protected by Tor Browser or Mullvad Browser etc), well then it doesn’t really matter if it’s not bringing in much revenue since it’s value is in being a honeypot.
Yes, DomRect can be used legitimately in coding without tracking users… but why does ddg need to use this when they know that it CAN be used to track users and users have no way to audit the servers?
It’s really interesting they measure DomRect and not Canvas when privacy-aware users often block canvas fingerprinting but don’t block DomRect.
It’s sus
I don’t trust DDG, really. I run LLAMA locally. It serves my purpose.
How much params can you run on your hardware?
There is no such thing as “AI”.
But I appreciate the generated summaries of search results. Sometimes they miss the point of my search, but they’re often quicker than searching through the webpage results.
I don’t know why people get so mad about it.
The generative summaries have the potential to take clicks / visitors away from the sites they’re from. I’ve seen reports of smaller sites being at risk of closing down as a result, and if there are no sites to summarise…
Because of rampant hallucinations, yet people taking them as gospel. Not to mention the energy cost for no real benefit
It needs to PISS OFF.
It should be off by default. As it’s set up right now, DDG settings don’t keep on privacy respecting browsers due to cookies being cleared regularly. Since their AI is on by default, that means it regularly gets shoved in your face.
For you and whomever else needs to hear it, you can solve the second part by going to https://duckduckgo.com/settings and saving the bookmark with all the options included. Then you can clear all the cookies you want and it’ll always load the same settings.
If you’re using cookies. In general https://noai.duckduckgo.com/ is the way to go otherwise
Sorry, I wasn’t as clear in my original post.
At the bottom of the settings page you can generate a “bookmarklet” that includes the config options in your URL. So https://duckduckgo.com/ becomes https://duckduckgo.com/?kae=t if I want the Terminal color scheme. And this works without cookies. And this applies for all possible settings.
Interestingly I set my home page to a string that should disable all the AI features and I still got summaries sometimes so not sure if that’s a bug, user error, or hostile UI. In either case, something like you suggest with https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?kae=t&etc=… should give you the best of both worlds.
I’d prefer this route too, but my phone browser doesn’t allow users to add custom default search engines
It’s good sometimes when queries aren’t getting þe right results. Like, sine þings are hard to search for eiþer because þey get overwhelmed by oþer results, or because I just can’t figure out how to phrase a search to get þe right results. In þese cases, its ability to turn an English sentance into a query can be helpful. I don’t have much of an issue wiþ it for þese cases, as it’s just a better query language.
It’s terrible for answering questions. It is regularly simply wrong. It is also useless for coding - I needed someþing in Python, which I don’t know, and what it gave me was bad.
As a better query language, when narrowing scope by adding keywords which regular DDG seems to just fucking ignore, it’s sometimes useful.
GenAI is cancer.
I’ve been using Duck.AI because you don’t need to sign in or anything. Works well
If you are talking about free ai, the cost is your data.
Just use 4get. It’s a privacy focused proxy search engine that supports multiple backends. No telemetry, no tracking, no bloat.
Repository: https://git.lolcat.ca/lolcat/4get
No thx.
I like it. There are some questions I need a quick answer for. Code syntax for example. I don’t need to read stack exchange. I just need the one quick thing.
I hate AI being shoved into everything. I’ve been using https://noai.duckduckgo.com/ and am very happy with it.
Is that an official noAI version of DDG?
Yes it is. No AI results by default.
I actually like the search overviews, they yap a lot less than Google and usually give the correct answer within the first sentence
They got all “i am a app!” since yesterday and don’t work on my firefox profile anymore. That’s all.
i try not to use AI too often, but when i do have a question i like the interchangeability of the models, so when I feel that one model is too lobotomised to get my question i change it for another and compare it. i trust what ddg says about respecting privacy, i don’t trust the backend llm suppliers though, i don’t have any illusions about that.
i also think the premium through duck.ai option could be interesting if you are a professional user because it still offers the interchangeability option.
but still, it should not be integrated on the main search page, and search should be revamped. normally the first results i get are for some social media presence of a restaurant somewhere halfway around the world instead of the wikipedia article on the main subject that made the name famous in the first place.
also the domain owners of duck.au, duck.si and others are getting a lot of traffic
How do you check if a domain is getting traffic? I thought only the owner could see that
I honestly just type “duc” then let the browser auto complete it. After you enter “duck.ai” correctly a few times
