I’m fine with the idea of a coop for a business. There are people whom I’d want to associate with. There’s a little catch - we all do different things in different areas. And those who do the same things in the same areas as me whom I know - those I wouldn’t want a coop with. I mean, OK, possibly I would.
average US corpo is just 1 vote 1 share, just right there it’s more equal representation than the US government has been for it’s entire existence.
And an individual can hold multiple shares. So some have more votes than others. That’s not democratic in any way.
throw in shit like recalling/installing new c-suites etc.
That’s a lot harder than you make it sound. That dysfunction is the main executive pay relative to performance has massively inflated over the years: accountability to shareholders in matters of compensation is piss-poor.
You talk as if with corporations a single person can be held responsible…
You can have syndicates and get close to socialism
Thats then syndicalism which is a form of socialism
Yeah but only when it’s the dominant form of doing business? We have a bunch of them in my country but we’re definitely still capitalism.
Syndicates existing doesnt mean the country isnt syndicalist. What i tried to say is that if syndicates were in charge that were syndicalism.
I am assuming syndicates as used by you means collection of workers aka a trade union/workers union.
Show me where.
My country has a bunch of syndicates, even some big coops, it’s not uncommon in Europe. You just need the legal structures for it.
Syndicates and coops are fine, just show me how you do that with power. Police, financial regulations. That usually doesn’t work so well.
Even in late USSR coops were a thing and could function, while everything was falling apart. It’s just that the pressure of power matters.
Let’s start with normalizing it for businesses like game companies! Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good!
The idea that it should be all or nothing is at best defeatist and at worst dangerous - lest you end up with USSR Communism indeed.
I’m fine with the idea of a coop for a business. There are people whom I’d want to associate with. There’s a little catch - we all do different things in different areas. And those who do the same things in the same areas as me whom I know - those I wouldn’t want a coop with. I mean, OK, possibly I would.
shit, the average public corporation is a more representative democracy than the US’s actual government is.
With voting power weighted by the amount of money they have invested.
Kind of like the way the US actually works.
I had to scroll back up to make sure I was stilling the same thread
average US corpo is just 1 vote 1 share, just right there it’s more equal representation than the US government has been for it’s entire existence.
throw in shit like recalling/installing new c-suites etc.
far more responsive/equal form of government than the clown show that is US “democracy”
And an individual can hold multiple shares. So some have more votes than others. That’s not democratic in any way.
That’s a lot harder than you make it sound. That dysfunction is the main executive pay relative to performance has massively inflated over the years: accountability to shareholders in matters of compensation is piss-poor.