Have not used this so I can’t speak to their viability, but there’s also @root
Like I mentioned in a similar post, please look at this alternative: https://stoat.chat/
Seams cool, but why not matrix since matrix has different instances you can chose from.
forgot to add that one, my other post did include Matrix as well :)
Well, time to dump Discord after I finish school.
What about Fractal? It even have a flatpak https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/fractal
Fractal is not multiplatform (i.e. isn’t available on Android and on iOS) and Matrix can be confusing to people not already familiar with it.
And no, a wall of text explaining what Matrix is won’t help since most of Discord’s users are teenagers with a very short attention span that don’t read much (unless they’re forced to by school).
Potential solution, may be controversial.
Just add a vertical video with Minecraft parkour or with CS surf on the bottom and a half naked woman from a freelance platform explaining what it is.
There are also Element and SchildiChat as alternative clients.
MSN Messenger for the win!
Best thing you can do with discord? Uninstall it.
I’m not against age restrictions, but letting every site brew their own method is a really bad idea. I’m not going to upload my legal ID to every random site; that’s a recipe for identity theft, and it’s a really bad idea to teach people that that’s normal or acceptable.
And age guessing through facial recognition is incredibly unreliable. My 16 year old son has already been accepted as 18+ somewhere. I had a full moustache at 14. Others are blessed with a babyface well into their 30s.
The only right way to do this, is if governments provide their citizens with an eID that any site can ask “is this person 18+?” and get an accurate answer without any other identifiable info. And if you don’t want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.
But instead everybody’s got to cobble together their own improvised system that we just have to trust blindly is not going to sell our data.
And if you don’t want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.
Actually, no on the fly communication with the issuer is required for selective disclose. You just need a signed document with individually salted hashes of different properties and you can create a zero knowledge proof non-interactively. Zero knowledge meaning that truely nothing but the disclosed property (age > 18, County == DE, or whatever) is communicated to anyone.
Theres a lot of other cool stuff that can be done with zero knowledge digital identity wallets. You could for example hash your pubkey together with the service providers pk and disclose that as a per service ID, but not reveal your pk. This allows linkability within one service (as a login method for example) while preventing cross service linkability.
That’s a no go from here…
On-device processing: Video selfies for facial age estimation never leave a user’s device.
Quick deletion: Identity documents submitted to our vendor partners are deleted quickly— in most cases, immediately after age confirmation.
Still a no for me for now, but a bit misleading: https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally
Its Joever
Well this is horrid. Must we really all go back to TeamSpeak?
Why did we leave it?
teamspeak 4 felt like it was in the stone age while discord had a bunch of cool ass features for chatting outside of voice. it also was much more appealing to casuals by being free to use and super easy to set up your own server, whereas setting up your own teamspeak server involved portforwarding and whatnot that turns off the vast majority of “normies”
We left it mostly because there were better services out there + the UI was considered outdated and all. But personally, I’d rather take the outdated UI than have my data stolen.
We need something like what Lemmy is to Reddir, except for discord. A decentralized application with multiple instances that users can join.
I have a discord server of about ~1K members, and would love to spin up a docker container to host my own instance that users can join. Chat, voice/ video calls, video streaming, etc. I’d love to support a FOSS project like this. Maybe even have E2E while we’re at it!
Stoat (formerly called Revolt) is potentially that. I tried it a while back and it was still rough around the edges, but the potential was there. Open source and has potential for self hosting.
Stoat.chat
Closest I can think of is Matrix. Element isn’t bad.
Matrix is the way, and element is the best so far, but it needs more work.
is there a practical way to delete all your messages at once?
personally i’d also backup the messages before deleting, this works well https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter
undiscord is good.
Yeah, you go ahead & do that, & watch how many people will jump ship to other alternatives while you lose a lot of money & subscriptions, especially when you’ve been hacked before.
People have found other alternatives to TikTok, & they’ll do the same with discord.
I mean, you’re not wrong, but have you seen what those alternatives were?
i wouldn’t be so optimistic. normies have a tendency to accept quite a lot.
Dude my dnd campaign is run on Discord what the fuck. Do I need to start hosting open source voice and video chat?
it’s fine as long as you dont have the server marked as 18+
also, supposedly they will be having an ai determine people who are 18+ so you might not even need to upload anything
still, if this leaves too sour of a taste in your mouth the alternatives i can think of off the top of my head are: teamspeak (although i dont think they have teamspeak 6 server files available yet?), riot! (now called stoat apparently?), mumble, matrix, and jitsi meet
oh yeah if you’re ok seperating the chat and voice app i really like deltachat for chatting in the group
Riot renamed to Element.io, Revolt renamed to Stoat.chat
