I’m using e/OS on a fairphone 6 since some months. I would like to use Android Auto for long trips, though the official documentation tells me to install Google, Google Maps, Google Speech Recognition and then Android Auto.

What privacy implications has installing these? Does the “Advanced Privacy” of e/OS help in keeping my data as far as possible?

I know, that using Google Maps and Android Auto will give Google the usage data of what I’m doing in these while I’m using them. But what about when they are currently not in use? Or apps, that I use while Android Auto is active, but which don’t have an integration for it?

There seems to be a set of OSS stub apps, that replace the Google Apss, though from what I have found online they give very mixed results.

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    2 days ago

    I don’t use e/OS , i use LineageOS, but I use microG and had Android Auto working for a while. The problem is that AA is very fussy about security checks and things, and eventually it stopped working and I couldn’t get it to work again. Support for projects like Android Auto 4 microG from Sn00x and rikj000 are drying up.

    Android Auto - XLauncher Unlocked can help with using apps that aren’t explicitly supported in AA.

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      Thanks for the suggestion. Seems like aa4mg either needs root (which I currently don’t have done on my phone, since my banking apps are allergic to that) or a custom ROM (which honestly is too much tinkering for my available time and a device I use so much)

      e/OS also uses microG. Do you know anything about the privacy implications of those google apps here? As my time is limited currently, I would either just install android auto as per instructions or not doing it at all. Long tinkering, that might easily break other things are not my focus at this time.

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        As far as I know, microG only sends data when Device Registration/google login is turned on, Push Notifications in microG are enabled, and through UnifiedNLP (location services). Data gets sent to Google through unifiedNLP due to the fact that the Secure User-Plane Location (SUPL) provider in Android’s gps.conf file is Google. There is a Magisk module to replace the SUPL provider, but again that requires root.

        MicroG doesn’t install a usable version of Google maps, and I wouldn’t try to install one if using microG. I am unaware of what data Google Speech Synthesis/Recognition sends if anything (I have it blocked from having internet access using a root firewall as a precaution).

        The e/OS team has tried to strip every bit of Google out of Android, but getting everything out is hard. Putting Google stuff back in is fine if you know and control what data is being sent. I accept the tradeoff of potential data being leaked when using Android Auto because I have much of it blocked from internet access, but that also might be why AA eventually stopped passing the security check on my device.

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    I’m on graphene is, but I use android auto without any google apps. I use magic earth for the maps, but you can use many other map app like organic maps or even osmand. The only things I’m missing is the speech recognition, so I can’t reply to messages and the text-to-speech, so I can’t hear them while driving. Well, maybe some day I’ll find an alternative to the Google apps for this, but until then, I prefer to do without it.

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      I really would like to do without google appa. Though Android Auto has a great value for me, when we go on vacation. Thus I want to be informed about the facts, before I commit to a way to go. And without rooting or custom ROMs the possibilities are limited

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        As I said, I have no single Google apps and this work. I just don’t have tts and voice recognition, but one can easily do without, furthermore if you have someone by your side that can reply for you or you can wait a break to reply to messages. I have apps to have the map, my music, my podcasts, my audiobooks, all available on my car interface which is enough for me.