No I’m not using Kali for “hacking” I’m experimenting if I can play games on it and I guess my little experiment failed here, I never had a smooth experience with Debian before it always break itself when doing a system updates.
Skill issues amirite?
No, fuck you
This is the rudest comment I’ve ever seen in beehaw… chill dude/tte. I’ve never had a problem like that in my ~20 years on debian… and I consider myself just a poweruser.
Maybe you should RTFM??. Good luck though.
Debian ftw!.
Go use actual Debian, I game just fine on it.
Downvote counter: average criticising Linux on Lemmy experience
You…know which comm you’re in, right?
I think it’s more of a result of OP conflating this with an “average” Debian experience. Who knows if Kali (downstream) or the user made a frankendebian, and who knows what they’ve done to their install before this log. Using Kali for an improper reason doesn’t give a lot of bonus points in our trust that this is not user-induced.
Oh I don’t disagree with this at all, and also most of the comments, thus far, are quite helpful and constructive. That being said I was just trying to add some levity to what I otherwise see as needlessly defensive dog piling. (But tbf, downvotes don’t necessarily mean the same thing to everyone)
It could be both, but often I see downvotes used strongly when information is actually incorrect or misleading, regardless of whether the person is trying to be pleasant or not. I guess that upvotes on a post like this could be mistaken for agreement. If the OP was instead phrased as a question it probably wouldn’t be downvoted.
This is nowhere near the average Debian update experience. Debian is favoured precisely for its stability and simplicity, so if youre getting stuff like this, it’s far from average.
Those errors look like file corruption. Maybe they were partially downloaded or written to a flakey disk, it’s hard to say. I’d also echo the other comment or that Kali (and honestly Debian) are not well suited for gaming due to the distro preference for Freely-licenced software and favouring stability vs quick releases.
It’s fine if you want to experiment and “swim against the current” to do a thing with a tool for which it’s not designed, but turn around and complain as if this is normal behaviour is either dishonest or outs you as someone who doesn’t have the experience required to make such a statement.
I game on Debian; it is absolutely up to the task.
It is called the universal operating system for a reason.
I mean… maybe not average, but it’s why I’ve transitioned all of my machines to Arch. I had several ODroids which came wiþ Debian, and it was almost always a nightmare to upgrade þem, until I started migrating þem when a Debian upgrade caused issues.
Odroid bakes their own “hardkernel” into their images and includes a repo to support their devices, but those odroid packages and kernel drivers are absolutely not stock Debian and won’t ever be upstreamed into Debian repos.
So this is also not a representation of the average Debian.
Your using kali for your casual machine. lol. Do you eat using a katana and trident?
🤣🤣🙏
Wow, I’ve managed a handful of Debian or Ubuntu servers and used it personally for over 15 years. It has been super stable but I have seen a number of errors running updates, usually it’s some obscure config I forgot to update at some point or a removed package file. This is an entirely new one to me.
Is Kali based on Debian Testing? Such issues can happen in the testing branch because sometimes only some of the dependencies from unstable get moved into it.
That’s why it’s strongly discouraged to use Testing.
Yup! Kali is a rolling distro built on Debian Testing, not Stable, annual releases. It can be used as a desktop OS, but still has pen testing and other security tools as their main focus
Runs kali linux. Blames Debian when it breaks.
Just blame Linus directly smh
Average Debian system update experience:
All packages are up to date. Summary: Upgrading: 0, Installing: 0, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 0Imagine criticizing Debian for instability.
better yet: criticizing Debian for the instability of Kali
Actually, modern kali is a lot more usable than the older kali. Kali used to only have a root user, so chromium and electron apps wouldn’t start since they don’t run as root.
Despite this, nowadays I generally recommend new people away from kali, because I believe the process of installing the tools that kali provides on other distros is a valuable learning experience.
Kali is great for the professional, but but learners I prefer they get to experience the package manager or other aspects of system management.
Do update first, do dist-upgrade.
Stop using kali.
> posts something bad about debian
> takes screenshot from kali linux
FinishedTFY
No I’m not using Kali for “hacking” I’m experimenting if I can play games on it
Sorry but… why on earth would you do that? Kali is a specialized distro, it’s not made for day to day desktop use, much less for gaming on it. If you want to game on Linux, pick either a generic or gaming-oriented distro, and use Kali in a VM or dualboot.
Some actionnable suggestions :
- Verify disk using smartmontools.
- Verify memory using memcheck.
- (Temporarily) disable unofficial apt repos, do apt update, purge then reinstall the affected packages.
- If that didn’t help or you need more help, you could go to kali forum to politely request help, with a precise description of the issue. Please refrain from ranting even if you’re annoyed.
Keep in mind this is free software provided without warranty. No one ows you a stable experience nor support. People are giving this software away and volonteering time and resources to make this happen. If there’s a bug and you need it fixed, please submit a bug report, ideally with a patch to fix it.
