The 8232 Project

I trust code more than politics.

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  • I’m keen to know your angle.

    Certainly! My threat model is mainly against mass surveillance, so this is my view: If there is a surveillance camera recording in a place where there is reasonable expectation of having no strangers, I am mostly fine with that. As you mentioned, if it is only recording your own private property where no strangers are meant to be, that is your business.

    However, if it is recording a space where there is reason to expect strangers to be there without violating private property (e.g. stores, doorsteps, sidewalks) that is not ok. Simply, I should not be in the crossfire of your surveillance. I don’t know your intentions with the footage, and I don’t know who else may have access to it. It shouldn’t be my job to cover up just because you want to violate the public’s right to privacy.

    You can see this post of mine about my views on the expectation of privacy in public. I made it about a year ago, and I haven’t read back over it, so it may be outdated or less refined than I’d prefer.

    I am a huge advocate for the right to privacy, so I don’t have any surveillance cameras of my own. When I have friends over, I want to lead by example and make my space a private space for them too. Instead of funding more surveillance, we should be funding stronger locks and better deterrents that don’t violate human rights.













  • I didn’t suggest F-Droid for inclusion though. I merely used its applicable terminology.

    My bad, I understand now.

    Because it’s security focused, it includes app stores that are good for their security (regardless of privacy). Other app stores, such as F-Droid, have security issues that Accrescent and the Google Play Store don’t share. This topic has been argued to death countless times before, and I don’t want to start a flame war, but do try researching it and see what comes up.




  • I do not agree with placing switzerland over sweden in that location category

    I’d be happy to hear your elaboration on this. From what I know, Switzerland is seen as the gold standard in terms of privacy.

    and i think a category should included, that tracks age of vpn or something like that

    The issue is that age doesn’t correlate with security. There could be an outdated, insecure VPN that’s been around for 10 years, or a modern, secure VPN that’s been around for 10 days. If I included it, there would be no “good” or “bad” values. Nevertheless, I will include this in version 2.0.

    (and just for someone curiouse, it should be mentioned that nymvpn does use mullvad servers/ has a deal with mullvad)

    I knew NymVPN used a small bit of Mullvad VPN’s code, but I didn’t know they used their servers. Could you link to this?