auster@thebrainbin.org you’re right, the experience is definitely sub-par, and it’s because both Mastodon and the Threadiverse use the Announce activity for different purposes.

Mastodon uses it to boost posts to the feed (overriding existing logic re: replies being suppressed), and the Threadiverse uses it to keep different instances up to date.

It could be made better in that when a group actor announces a reply, Mastodon doesn’t promote it to the feed. Not sure if that’s easy to do.

In a nutshell, it’s because you don’t have to build the entire kit and kaboodle all at once.

Lots of BlueSky is centralized so you don’t have to worry about distribution, user, hosting, scaling, etc. and just focus on the frontend.

It’s the same reason why all the Lemmy and Mastodon apps look way better than the web versions, because all those other parts are no longer relevant and the creator(s) can focus on just putting out a polished product.

FYI all the Mastodon team is looking for feedback on featured collections (aka “starter packs”) so they may check in on this post 🙂

Oh, I’m sorry to hear that… unfortunately debugging server-to-server interactions is kind of tough. It should work though, so I don’t know why it didn’t… yet. It could be their version of NodeBB isn’t up to date enough.

cwsmith@community.darkscribes.com cwsmith@community.nodebb.org are you able to weigh in and let me know the NodeBB version? Could also be a privileges issue with the fediverse pseudo-user.

Also, a couple years back I lost basically all of my gaming clients to Discord.

Travesty. Discord pales in comparison to what forums can do.

So NodeBB and forums in general used to be pretty big in games, but not so much now.

Last one I know of is Sea of Thieves, but they don’t federate.

… yet? 😂

There are comparatively few instances that federate, since we are new to the activitypub game.

I made the decision that if you upgrade to v4, AP is turned off. Install a new instance of NodeBB, and ActivityPub is enabled out of the box.

Side effect of that would be all instances running prior to v4 won’t be federating, but at least there will be no surprises!

Here’s a list, but it’s not listed by topic or genre.

https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/list

Emphasizing moderation differences and such are things best left to discover after the user successfully lands onto the fediverse.

At the start they shouldn’t even have to think about what instance they want to land on. We’re approaching it with the mindset that they “want to join Lemmy/Piefed” — that’s not right!

They should want to join a specific community, and the server just happens to be whatever they find first.

Let’s say I like Star Trek. I shouldn’t have to be redirected to startrek.website. I should be able to see the community, think “cool I want to participate”, and sign up, even if where I landed happens to be feddit, db0, or a random NodeBB instance.

Hey, yeah, please tell the Linux Nerds people to turn on federation!

Tell them Julian from NodeBB will help them get started 🤓

Your blogging options with federation are: WordPress, Ghost, and WriteFreely

I suppose, although in that scenario theoretically one could add as:sensitive to mark the status as CW’d? I don’t think CW logic is even run for non-Notes at the moment, though I could be mistaken.

Not necessarily, no. Content warnings were implemented in Mastodon specifically as summary plus sensitive=true. Perhaps not originally, but that is enforced now (all CW’d posts from Mastodon are marked sensitive). Might be Mastodon will CW notes that don’t have sensitive, out of caution, but this doesn’t apply to non-Notes.

So a summary included in a non-Note is not CW’d by Mastodon currently.

Thanks. Yes, this is just how Mastodon renders content from Lemmy and Piefed at the moment.

Mastodon sees something that is not a Note, and says “I will treat it using a fallback mechanism. If it has a title, it is added to the top, I will add the URL back to the site at the bottom. If it has a summary, I will use that as the content”

Note that it does not use content, that’s why there’s no actual content. This is why the link preview also links back to Lemmy, not to the article itself.

nutomic@lemmy.ml and rimu@piefed.social can add this to their software, respectively, by populating summary. It can just be a copy of content, or it can be a summarization… or it could be the link to the article… anything goes really.