• someoneelse@lemmy.ml
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    15 days ago

    jesus fucking christ stop giving a platform to assholes. Don’t disseminate their ideas. Ever.

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      15 days ago

      In principle, I agree with you. But the problem is, these assholes already have the platform. They own it, in the literal sense (they outright own or hold large shares in the major social media platforms and the traditional media outlets) and in the more general, vague sense (their beliefs, even if fringe, will get pushed into mainstream discourse because of their grotesquely outsized disproportionate influence). He’s a billionaire. If he wants his message heard by the world, it will be heard, period, because we live in a capitalist society, which isn’t called a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie for nothing.

      Given this reality that their ideas will be disseminated regardless, it becomes important to counter them. To shout out the truth that their ideas are disgusting and how they do great harm to regular people and to the world. It is important to mock them and show others how ridiculous and heinous their ideas are.

      In short:
      If an evil voice has no platform or is struggling to grow one, then I absolutely agree - do not give it to them. But when they already have it, it can only make things worse if their opposition (we, ourselves) remain silent about the harm they’re already doing.

  • minorkeys@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    So…the Jews want to control the media…? Man, they’re really trying to live up to some of those old stereotypes.

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      14 days ago

      Not Jews but Zionists specifically, including Christian Zionists. Zionists have had siginficant control over US media for a very long time but when you state the obvious people call it the antisemitic trope because they have been conditioned to do so. They were pretty open about why they bought TikTok

  • mcv@lemmy.zip
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    14 days ago

    Only antisemitism? Not other forms of racism?

    I bet the only form of “antisemitism” this is about, is criticism of genocide.

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    15 days ago

    Well I say he needs to limit his mom from hanging out in my room all night but that’s not fucking happening either now is it

  • FoundFootFootage78@lemmy.ml
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    15 days ago

    At this point it’s pretty clear America will support Israel regardless of what we say or do. Does free speech even matter anymore?

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    Capitalism is the heir of feudalism and always the prelude to fascism, a system of control and oppression, never a political system. Billionairs and politicians need to be controlled, not the other way arround.

  • The Bard in Green@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz
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    15 days ago

    When any criticism of the Israeli government or expression of solidarity with the Palestinian people is “antisemitic”, you’ve damaged and weakened the very meaning of the word “antisemitism” and the moral authority of those who wield it.

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      I’ve heard some people say some straight-up antisemitic things recently, and, for the first time in my life, I’ve been scared to speak up against it. Because this country successfully destroyed the meaning of antisemitism to the point that a Nazi could easily stomp my Jewish ass without facing real heat concerning hate crimes because they support Israel or whatever.

      My community should have really considered the repercussions of agreeing with a Nazi back when they had a chance. Instead, when I’d point out that being on the same page as Nazis usually implies you’re on the wrong side, they responded that maybe it’s time to admit that Hitler might have had some good ideas.

      You don’t have to have seen Lost Boys to know that you shouldn’t invite a vampire into your home. Same goes for Nazis.

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          Because Judaism only covers the religion, while semitism covers so much more. It would not be antisemitic to say that my chances for dementia are significantly elevated, even though that is a common trait with people of my Jewish lineage. And, in fact, I’ve watched most of my family die from neurodegenerative diseases.

          What is antisemitic is when people tell me that I don’t have a very Jewish-looking nose. No amount of reading the Torah will give your family dementia or enlarge your nose.

          The chances that I’m circumcised are higher, and that’s because of my religion. Guessing that wouldn’t be antisemitic, but asking if my parents cut my pp off could possibly be seen as such.

          I’m not sure if I made sense with all this. You’re welcome.

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          Someone else gave the clean version, but the conspiracy theory version is Antisemitism relates Jews with the middle east even though most are from Eastern Europe and have no connection to actual semites. Therefore the term antisemitism is an extension of zionism.

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        15 days ago

        Antisemitism is calling all Jews (including those in your country) bad because X.

        Antizionism is calling the Israeli government (and only the government) bad because Y.

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          Antizionism should be calling Zionists bad, and there are plenty outside of the Israeli government.

          If you’re anti-nazi there are a lot of people you should be calling bad outside of the German government between the 20’s and 40’s.

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      15 days ago

      I agree with you. And I would also like to set fire to this thread by asking: couldn’t you say the same about criticising US Conservative Republicans and saying all are Nazis, and weaken the word, because only MAGA are legit racist homophobic Christian fascists?

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        They are Nazis and anyone saying they aren’t at this point is a Nazi apologist and should be treated the same as a Nazi.

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        If you look very carefully you will see that they’re all in support of some very Nazi shit.

        They just justify that we’re being wokescolds by stopping short of wanting Holocaust 2 (even as they literally support it in Gaza)