Today around 12:00pm EDT, a post was uploaded to r/whenthe by u/concussionmaker_91 about how despite their multiple privacy measures, Reddit was still able to ping their location and show them an ad about a business in close proximity to their house. Then, in less than 2 hours after the post when live, their year old account was permanently banned. Redditors in the comment section used a website called SnooSnoop to see if this account has done anything malicious in the past that may be grounds for a ban only to find nothing.

I don’t think this is a mere coincidence and some comments I read on the post may be there to dismiss the situation.

I’m currently working on archiving the post and comments in case Reddit decides to try and erase this entire situation from the web, I’ll attach the files when I do.

  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    Lol someone lied on reddit today? You don’t say?

    Someone willing to use vpns and proxies but unable to block ads? Really?

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      2 days ago

      I think I’m so done with reddit, even old.reddit, that I reflexively pressed back after I clicked your link.

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      2 days ago

      It’s so conceited to think the Jews are making you gay. They are a busy people and do not care about your love life. The Illuminati do put ‘the subliminal messages turning you into a femboy’ into all of your entertainment, but that was really more of a joke that got out of hand.

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    3 days ago

    Easiest explaination:

    1. Visit website X without VPN
    2. Get tracking cookie set that’s associated with your IP and approximate location
    3. Turn on VPN because your’re an idiot that believes VPNs fix everything
    4. Wonder how website X knows your approximate location

    So no rocket science involved here…

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      Arguably he wouldn’t have even needed to turn off his VPN. If he logged into an account associated with his real life. (A Meta program or Google environment) then he would have gotten those same location cookies. Same could be said if he had reddit on his phone. A VPN helps, but everything in your life is connected to everything else these days.

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      Fix: Everytime you go to use a VPN, you delete any browsing data, ideally even start an entirely new vm, with a privacy friendly browser. Also gotta make sure to use an operating system that can’t be so easily fingerprinted, along with the computers hardware. So the only real easy answer is Whonix.

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        Don’t most “privacy browsers” (I use LibreWolf) delete browsing data every time you close the program?

      • Doesnt bejng so difficult to properly fingerprint just leave a trail of anomalous fingerprints to follow?

        Like, I know its not the same but you can identify people from their silhouette, you don’t need a photo of their face. Paint around a subject well enough and it becomes clear even if you never add it to the image.

        I guess what I’m asking is, does it leave a Clean Enough hole that people can tell what should be there?

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          Is your question rhetorical? I remember reading before that Facebook was creating shadow accounts for people that didn’t have actual accounts. They would build a user based on everything they could track, even attaching presumed names.

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    3 days ago

    not to defend reddit too much, but posting “i feel like doing a terrorism on reddit” is worrying

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      The user never said that though.

      The user posted a picture of Ted because Ted was anti-technology and now the user feels anti-technology sentiments because they were tracked despite taking precautions.

      Nowhere do they express a desire for violence or other illegal activity.

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    3 days ago

    Before we start rolling out conspiracy theories and such, let’s all apply a little Occam’s razor to this.

    The simplest explanation is that OP is full of shit.

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      The simplest explanation is that OP doesn’t have good opsec, and got a few tracking cookies after deleting cookies, before setting up their proxy/VPN. Then, on the VPN, the advertiser recognized their VPN IP address, and chose to exclude that from generating location data, deferring instead to the location indicated in their existing tracking cookies.

      Privacy is hard. The system is rigged against privacy. You have to do everything perfectly, because one simple mistake could leak your IP address.

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      Hehehee
      Actually though, theat’s not truthfully Occam’s razor. Occam’s razor requires the easiest answer with the least assumptions, which would be, that they’re using their tooling wrong.

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    3 days ago

    Did you live under the impression, that Reddit where there, to not profit from their user base? Or to make sure the users has rights?

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    They require you to turn off your VPN for signup. If you use the main webpage then that’s different. I use a client that’s open source called continuum with no built in tracking.

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          Yuu have to get an API key which you can get through the developer settings under “create app.” Just look up how to get reddit API key.

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            Doesn’t getting an API key defeat the purpose of “no tracking”? Genuinely asking, don’t know much about this, but intuition points me they will be able to track you by API key used then.

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              Yes and no. I can’t really down the engineering behind an API key but I can tell you it is definitely individually linked to the account you setup the key on. But it can’t only track what’s being done in the app. I only use it to view web results where I’d be tracked much more by using the website. The app client itself has no trackers built into it. So it can’t spy on what else you’re doing.

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    3 days ago

    Location could just be from when the account was made right? I’m sure it would be very difficult to create a new account while utilizing a VPN considering how active reddit has become in blocking connections from known VPN providers.

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    3 days ago

    Something odd happened on Reddit today…

    I don’t find that extraordinarily odd at all really. This has been Reddit’s modus operandi for quite a while now. Anything that might pull the curtains back to peep at what/who’s running the show is sternly frowned upon. Usually, they will just shadow ban you which I personally find cowardly. I’d rather you tell me straight out to piss off.

    On the topic of browser fingerprinting. I have a more than fair understanding of how it works, however, I am an expert at nothing. What has always struck me as odd is that browser fingerprints change over time, so how do you use a browser fingerprint to source the origin user? Without changing anything, my fingerprint ‘score’ changes daily. Some things that change or affect browser fingerprinting are:

    • User-Agent (browser, OS, version)
    • Screen resolution & color depth
    • Installed fonts
    • Plugins & extensions
    • Canvas & WebGL rendering
    • Timezone & language settings
    • HTTP headers (Accept, Do-Not-Track, etc.)
    • WebRTC, audio context, hardware info
    • Cookies, local storage, caching behavior

    About 80% to 90% of all browser fingerprints are unique at any given time. Only 30% to 50% of browser fingerprints change within 1 to 3 months. Users who regularly update, wipe their browser data, or install extensions have the most changes, whereas users who hardly ever update anything, never wipe browser data, or install extensions have the most consistent browser fingerprints that can last months to years. So, in my thinking, a browser fingerprint alone would do little to pinpoint a specific user, if they are regularly maintaining their security envelope. I guess in the case of forensics, a browser fingerprint could be used as a part of complementary evidence.

    If they were using a VPN, it could be that their DNS was leaking. However, Reddit usually rejects accounts made with a VPN engaged.

    Checking fingerprinting is something I do regularly because I’m very curious. The best I’ve been able to achieve is partial or nearly unique. I also do daily DNS leak tests, which may sound all paranoid, but even with a VPN, and a stand alone pfsense firewall/unbound, and various other obfuscation techniques, VPN IPs change and the IP you had yesterday for a certain locale, might not be the same as today, so it’s worth me taking a minute to check. Not that I have anything to hide. /s

    I recommend a daily cleansing with Bleachbit, or Privazer. Schedule task or a cron to run it before shut down.

    If someone has expert knowledge of browser fingerprinting, I stand by to be schooled.

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      way to complicated, the reddit app just checks what wifi is connected, and then send the SSID and probably the MAC adress to the reddit servers, they then compare that info the a global map of know wifi locations (created by multiple sources like google street cars, apps that collect that data, amazon ring devices etc) and then they have the location down to something like 30m.