As weird as the title sounds, my family really dislikes me using Tuta and not Gmail. Is your family also like this?

“Come on, Sarah, can’t you just be normal and use Gmail like everyone?”

  • my mom, scolding me.
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    Parry and hit back. Ask her why it matters what you use if you can function with them as if you use google. Then return fire with your favorite reason not to use google. For me, I like to open the dev tools in Firefox, and show the head of any website. Let them choose. Find the line with google analytics, google tag service, or google ad sense. “Wow this website has nothing to do with google. Why is this here? To track you. Did you know that google can track your mouse? Even if you don’t click on anything? Or they can track you by installing fonts?” Etc. Etc. Scare the shit out of them and they’ll leave you alone. Hopefully you can slowly begin to convert them.

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    my mental health was questioned so there’s that.

    my explaination about surveillance capitalism and what possibilities corporations have to spy on us fell on deaf ears and raised concern. i got called “paranoid” and also “stupid”

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      My answer is that I have a degree in CS and I work on the field. I know what I’m talking about. I literally work in the massive data processing field (not tracking, bank data but still).

      “No, they are not listening to me through the microphone of my phone. They don’t need to, that’s the scary part.”

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    The title sounds weird because it’s word gore, not because of the implied meaning. Try reading what you’ve written.

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    Huh? What difference does it make to them…?

    Wait, thinking about it, is it because name at gmail is easier to remember for them? Because gmail is the “standard” in their minds?

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      Normies find it triggering if thongs take extra steps or aren’t proceeding in the normal way they expect.

      My family (and wife especially) get triggered…“why can’t we just be normal and use Netflix, why do we have to tolerate any buffering on your Jellyfin thing. What was the email address you use again? Why don’t you just use WhatsApp like everyone else, no one uses this Signal nonsense. I’m sending you photos on Google Photos or WhatsApp, why should I have to figure out adding them to you NAS drop folder. What is this MailBox nonsense, why don’t you just share your calendar from google calendar”.

      A lot of tech tools are social tools. Other people don’t want to think about this stuff. They don’t care about stuff that doesnt affect them. They don’t care about my FreshRSS feeds, that doesnt affect them. But they do care that I can’t send them photos on Google Photos.

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        And sometimes regular people want things to work with minimal friction.

        why can’t we just be normal and use Netflix, why do we have to tolerate any buffering on your Jellyfin thing

        I’ve run Jellyfin and I get this; you must not have something serious correctly, your bandwidth sucks, or it’s a bug in Jellyfin. Either way, that’s friction.

        I’m sending you photos on Google Photos or WhatsApp, why should I have to figure out adding them to you NAS drop folder.

        Again, friction. Google Photos and WhatsApp is easy. I guarantee you’ve setup something that you think is cool but is just a PITA.

        I’d be like if a mechanic setup this car so that everything was opposite to make it difficult to steal; gas on the left and brake on the right, turn signal on the left, etc etc. sure he thinks it’s cool and when he drives it it’s fine, but it’s a PITA for anyone else to drive his car. And he asks people to drive his car constantly to show them how cool it is because of all the work he put into it.

        And don’t call people “normies”. You sound like you live in you mom’s basement when you say that.

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      Probably. But my parents are really crazy. This kind of thing was kinda expectable over the guys who start to yell at each other because of a pot’s shape.

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    • it you would have WhatsApp, we could keep in contact
    • oh, come one, we have a Facebook Family group
    • can’t you just share a Google calendar with me
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    That’s literally everyone I know. They dont care about massive tech corps stealing everything. They have no clue they are feeding the machin e free data every time they use their shitty ai services. Drives me nuts.

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    If it makes you feel any better, when someone calls on you being normal, they are, by definition, the asshole that can’t adjust. Doesn’t mean they’re an unlovable person, but it’s a personal flaw of them, not you. It’s not like you are changing their way of life. You are changing your way of interacting with them. Respect and understanding should go both ways, not just one.

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    I’ve always been like that since decades ago and my family just always had this “oh you…” attitude. Most people don’t understand.

    Having said that, happy to see more girls and women interested in this! That used to be very different

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    Never defend. Always go on the offensive, Art of War. Never say privacy. Never get dragged tech yapping. Always, ‘control’, ‘power’, ‘scam’ and ‘abuse’, stay on target. Never start with what is won. Human care much more about loss. Focus on what they are losing.

    Something like:

    Watching 100 pedos from big tech gape out your inbox has never been normal but I’m not judging you.

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    I get this all the time. 99% of the comments are from tech-illiterate people so I don’t care.

    My brother surprised me recently by making a comment: “why would you go to the length of tinkering if you could just use [commercial solution].” So we’ll have a chat when I see him next month. He is quite tech literate and the last one I would expect to say something like that.

    Otherwise I flat out ignore the comments. People have no clue and are absolutely ignorant sheep blinded by convenience and comfort. Which I am convinced this is going to end the human race. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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    If by family you mean biological family, I never really cared much what they think about anything (or about anyone). Also, I was still a little boy when I had to learn how to protect my privacy from my intrusive mom. So, yeah what anyone else may think about my choice and priorities was never that important.

    If you’re referring to my real family, aka the person I decided to share my life with almost 30 years ago, we’re both adults and we both are fine with the other not doing things exactly like we would do them (it happens we also both care about preserving as much of our privacy), like we’re fine with the other having activities we’re not involved in ;)

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    I’m the family’s tech nerd so no.
    Btw mom’s laptop will soon rock Mint. Later step will be de-gmail-ing her.

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    Same here, while this was a few years back it’s still relevant. My girlfriends parents are helicopter parents and would have a back door into everything if they could. So the one day I noticed that her mother had said to me that she doesn’t mind us going to movies two weeks from then. This was only said between the two of us in a text. This was a good opportunity to switch her over to signal. She asked me if there is a way to check if she was in anything else so I had her change password and move over to a password manager instead of the paper notebook in her room that her mother probably looked through.

    Only a week later her mother did look through that notebook at one point for passwords because because she openly asked for it one day “so she could check her school email for scholarship information”, didn’t ask for just the password, but the whole notebook. From what I remember my girlfriend had a conversation with her mother about privacy that would turn into an argument.

    Moral of the story, even people you are told you are supposed to trust aren’t trustworthy.