Valve today (12 November 2025) announced their new Steam Machine (x86 CPU, 6x more powerful than Steam Deck) and Steam Frame (self-contained and PCVR streaming VR headset with ARM CPU & “FEX” translation of x86 to ARM) to be released in early 2026. No prices yet.

I’m trying to speculate what effects this will have on the wider Linux ecosystem. Both devices will be running Steam OS and be open so you can run any OS.

First, I’ve read many people state that the Steam Deck considerably increased the number of devices running Linux, so it seems to me that these two new devices will accelerate that trend.

Second, it seems to me that the Steam Frame will significantly increase VR use and development for Linux.

Third, I wonder what the implications of Frame’s x86 to arm translation layer (based on FEX, an open source project that I only learned about today) as well as Android compatibility (they state it can sideload Android APKs) will be. Could this somehow help either Linux on Apple silicon or Linux phone efforts? I’m very unfamiliar with what’s going on with either of these efforts, so I may be way out on a limb here.

What do you think about all this?

  • MrKoyun@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    Fınally, year of the Linux desktop is here!

    All 3 of the new hardware seems really cool. I’m very excited. These probably won’t be sold where I am, but I’m considering getting a steam controller from a 3rd party seller if it turns out to be cheap enough for me.

    I’m surprised that they kept the “Steam Machine” name. I thought they would choose a different name to avoid any negative connotations. It is a very cool name though.

    Also this goes to prove again that Steam/Valve is not a monopoly. If this “small” team of 350~ people in a private company can casually beat Microsoft’s market domination, Every other game launcher/storefront + The 17 Billion dollars Meta burned into their VR Hardware and “The Metaverse”, this is nothing but a case of crippling incompetence from their competitors.

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      Also this goes to prove again that Steam/Valve is not a monopoly

      How does a company announcing a new item for later release disprove its status as a monopoly? How does a game company designing a better product than a bumbling social media company disprove its status as a monopoly? Can you explain?

      Some 73% of developers see Steam as a monopoly

      Steam satisfies the FTC’s definition of a monopolist

      I’m not taking a stance on whether or not valve is a monopoly, but claiming that a press release for upcoming items (that have yet to even hit the market) disproves its monopoly status seems wrong.

      The fact that customers enjoy the products that a monopoly makes doesn’t disprove its monopoly status. It just proves there is still some ounce of good engineering winning over shortsighted financial decisions in Valve’s leadership.

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      I’m surprised that they kept the “Steam Machine” name. I thought they would choose a different name to avoid any negative connotations. It is a very cool name though.

      what negative connotations exsit for “steam machine”

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        They released a swath of “Steam Machine” devices about a decade ago through partnerships with companies like Alienware. I think the software implementation was poor, and I think the prices were exorbitant.

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      I don’t think there are any negative connotations to the original Steam Machine. They weren’t successful, but in a way that was okay. They weren’t widely sold, and what most of the gaming public got out of the Steam Machine project was the Steam Controller, Big Picture Mode, and the Proton compatibility layer. Most Windows gamers didn’t notice, it was a major boon to Linux gamers, and then they came out with the Steam Deck which has been a genuine success.

  • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The biggest issue with Linux phones, is that basically every hardware manufacturer refuses to support Linux in any kind of way. Chipsets, and radios in particular. Linux itself needs a little optimization for mobile but it’s mostly hardware.

    It’s really difficult to port Linux to any android device, despite being perfectly compatible in every way outside of drivers.

    The x86 to arm is very cool. I do some stuff like this on my phone by running winlator. It works better on snapdragon because it has a better video translation layer.

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    Could this somehow help…Linux phone efforts?

    I thought about this but the biggest problem with Android is lack of adoption from developers of third party app stores and UnifiedPush, and similarly widespread adoption of Play Integrity API. This won’t solve those problems.

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      For sure.

      I am excited to see more arm-based Linux devices for consumers. And the Snapdragon-based VR is exciting on that front.

      It definitely won’t change anything for tomorrow or next year, but it does make me hopeful that better support is in the relatively near future.

    • Mirror Giraffe@piefed.social
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      Yeah, there would need to be a major player investing in this route, coupled with strong integrity checks, to force banks and identity apps to make a third version of their apps.

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      Wasn’t the issue there that there are no drivers for the specific Apple silicon hardware, so someone needs to invent them? Because we’ve had raspberry pi for ages. Software for ARM is a solved problem AFAIK.

      • trevor (he/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I’m replying to you from Asahi Linux on an Apple Silicon Macbook. The drivers are definitely there!

        FEX emulation of x86 on ARM CPUs has made many x86 games playable on my Macbook.

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    2 months ago

    If there is an easy way to extend the desktop to the virtual big screen it will put it higher on my list.

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            yeah. I mean I will not be buying pre sales or anything. I will let it come out. See some people who bought it give a rundown and like the steamdeck pick it up down the line after a price decrease. If I do pick it up. Sorta need to be working before I can be buying toys.

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    2 months ago

    Having a Linux machine, with decent hardware as a common target for developers will have huge implications for gaming in Linux. The SteamDeck has already inspired more devs to make native Linux versions of their games, rather than relying on Proton. This should expand the appeal for devs even more so

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    I know what you asked about is the Machine and Frame, but I’m super excited about the controller. I love my old steam controller I got on fire sale, but its an extremely flawed device. If they can polish that to the standard of the Deck, I’m so in, especially since you know it’ll work well on Linux with no firmware BS.

    • Cricket@lemmy.zip@lemmy.zipOP
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      Yes, I’m definitely interested in the controller too! I only mentioned Machine and Frame because I figured those might both have an impact on Linux, but I didn’t even think about how the Steam controller may become a nice standard controller for Linux.

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      Definitely agree. Had a couple of them and loved some of the ideas (touchpad sticks, gyro to mouse aim, all of the Steam Input flexibility) but they never really eclipsed my rechargeable Dualshocks in terms of feeling right. Taking some of the Deck’s refinements and giving it another spin is welcome.

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    Huge win for Linux. Steam Deck was the first volley, but this hardware is an all-out assault on Windows’ gaming dominance. MS is asleep at the wheel and making worse and worse software. I’m a 20 year Windows user and I’m planning my exit. If I were a gaming executive, I would assume 5 years from now that a smaller percentage of Steam users will be on Windows than there are today. I would want a damn good reason for my company’s next game to not have full Linux support.

    Microsoft will either:

    • win through innovation
    • win through monopolistic practices
    • win through inertia
    • slowly lose by having a worse product

    My money is on #4. Windows will probably be the #1 desktop/laptop OS for the next 20 years, but we could enter a world where Linux and MacOS are each 10% or more of the market. Steam shows 95% Windows but that’s for a gaming-focused market.

    Valve isn’t perfect. They’re still a corporation. But if every company was as evil as Valve, we would achieve near world peace. They’ve contributed amazing things to open source through heavy investment.

    https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

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      Valve isn’t perfect. They’re still a corporation. But if every company was as evil as Valve, we would achieve near world peace. They’ve contributed amazing things to open source through heavy investment.

      It’s a privately own company, and it shows. Linux and open source just wins, because it allows to set these symbiosis with partners instead of treating everything as competition, my way-or-the-highway-style.

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        Embarrassingly, make a Windows 10-like OS. (More specifically, a window manager, probably.) Or have an affirmative vision for the future (non-Windows 95-derived) like Niri or (fascist-adjacent) Omarchy. 15+ years ago I booted my first distro. I ran Ubuntu with Unity on a side PC for years. Good for single screen use. I daily drove Debian for 3 months in 2018 but never got it to look more modern than Windows 2000. I never “enjoyed” it. This matches my thoughts. https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/10/deduplicating_the_desktops/

        Going to try out https://www.anduinos.com/ and Zorin. Have done distro hop roulette for months and a lot of them are unsatisfying. KDE looks close to how I want but runs slow e.g. https://lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz/post/58790510

        I’m big on super+arrow to move windows from one screen to another. I rarely need more than 4 active windows per display. But my big problem with tiling is that I like seeing the windows I have open at the bottom of my screen. (this was for my laptop but similar points https://lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz/post/58681232 )

        My side OS on my main PC is Mint with MATE, but I also don’t gel with it. Ran it on a family PC for years and it did the job for casual use. Random gripe off the top of my head I think applies in MATE: sorting is in byte order, not in brain order. Many linuxes sort 10, 1, 2 instead of 1, 2, 10. MATE and Xfce (iirc) have terrible file operation handling compared to Windows or (the gold standard?) Teracopy in Windows.

        Every default GUI archive/extract program in Linux sucks, that I could find. I prefer Peazip but even 7z-gui (the stock one) is good. Even native windows zip support feels more pleasant. This goes back to a bazzite/omarchy philosophy of shipping software that is good, instead of defaults that suck.

        Oddly enough I kind of respect AntiX + IceWM, as well as Lxqt / Lubuntu more than most of the crap modern WMs I’ve used.

        SSH key exchange / setup is a fucking nightmare and I don’t know why I’m copy pasting keys into text files or piping multiple commands together for the 50% odds that my OS setup allows it. I still don’t really understand the Linux threat model where passwords on a local account make sense. (Is it to prevent local scripts from escalating to admin?)

        I’ve run Linux servers for 5 years and I run WSL, but nothing clicks per se. I’m always more at home in Windows. Niri feels close to what I want, but too high a learning curve. I may make a post about it someday.

        https://social.linux.pizza/@BigHeadMode/114843921051139964

      • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one
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        Don’t be such a ridiculous fucking hater you blind yourself to reality

        Barring literally everything else, this steam box shares its lineage with the Xbox, not Sony or Nintendo’s products. Speaking as one who ran xbmc on their classic first-gen it’s nice to see things coming full circle to “everything is just a media center pc, bitches”.

    • Cricket@lemmy.zip@lemmy.zipOP
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      I’m a 20 year Windows user and I’m planning my exit.

      Hear hear. I’m a 35 year DOS -> Windows user (personally and professionally) and already actively working on my exit.

      I would want a damn good reason for my company’s next game to not have full Linux support.

      I think I remember reading comments indicating that lots of (indie?) developers are taking the strategy of ensuring that their games work well on WINE/Proton instead of specifically developing for Linux. That makes sense economically for a small company at this point. 5 years from now will probably be a different story than now though, like you said.

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    Valves choices the last few years are making me more optimistic that a Linux phone ecosystem could grow and improve. Sideloading APKs on an ARM-based easy-to-use linux system? Nice! It is possible using Waydroid etc today, but it is not very polished.

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    2 months ago

    The effort they are putting towards x86 emulation will definitely help the broader Linux community. I saw a bit about 24 min in on gamer nexas video. That would help down the line on all sorts of devices.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Yeah, pretty sure it was called “Fex” translation layer for emulating x86 binaries on ARM64. To me that was absolutely the biggest takeaway, because that’s a massive game-changer for eventually moving the industry away from x86 exclusivity and into wider adoption of other architectures.