For context, in my password manager I had tried formatting some of my entrees so that it would contain the usual username and password, but instead of creating whole new entrees for the security questions for the same account, I just added additional fields in the same entree in order to keep things a little more tidy.
I was not expecting that doing so would result in later being shaken down by Proton to pay even more money just to access the same few bytes of fucking text I had trusted them with. This is sleazy as fuck and I am dropping these idiots entirely.
Use keepassXC instead. You don’t need any kind of cloud for a password manager. Keepass database can by synchronized between devices with syncthing. Safer and free forever
I don’t think that’s where entrees go.
Hypothetically it should have. Those were additional fields that I added to the main account login entree, in order to keep all the relevant data in one place.
Bitwarden offers this feature for free using custom fields, although 2FA is paid unless you self-host IIRC
Vaultwarden is a great self hosted bitwarden clone
I haven’t personally hosted it myself but I’ve heard it’s pretty good, also worth vouching for KeePass based on my time with it
Have you considered upgrading to Proton Lux™?
Because a bunch of dementia patients started leaving 1 star review as they kept on forgetting their passwords
Can you still access the info by hitting edit? It was possible last time I checked. Even so, yeah, I’m thinking a transition to bitwarden is not a bad idea.
According to other comments in this thread, Bitwarden does similar crap. I went back to Keepass.
As for the data, luckily it was for an account I don’t need or use anymore, so I just deleted everything and moved on.
Pretty sure the warning signs were apparent when the CEO submitted to Trump. it just his “personal beliefs” and not representative of the company. Right.
The CEO was lobbying for online privacy by publicly shaming the Democrats. He was doing his job.
Why is it that just doing their job excuse or just following orders tends to be associated with questionable actions as opposed to positive ones? It’s starting to seem like a red flag if those two phrases get used for an action.
He made a mean tweet about the Democrats, it’s not like he loaded bullets into ICE guns.
Wait the Democrats respond to public shaming? At this point I thought they got off on it. He was doing his job but, he was kissing fascist ass just like Google, Microsoft, and Apple have not lobbying for privacy.
Yeah, I tried to be charitable and assume they were just ignorant of how bad Trump is. I should have known better.
??? I use Proton mail and I never saw something like this. Account with nick, other mail, password and go.
It’s in Proton Pass. When you create an account entree, there is an option to create additional fields that you can name and fill out, kind of like multiple notes in one file. Somehow I was able to create those fields on my account just fine, but then to be given access to that data it turned out that I had to upgrade my account. In other words they duped me into entering data at no extra cost, but then charged me to access that same data later on.
That’s scummy as fuck.
I guarantee they do that on purpose just like all other scams that make you invest your time before telling you you need to pay.
I don’t use it. Mail is fine, I don’t need other than this. For all other apps, there are tons of FOSS alternatives out there.
Bitwarden FTW
Not sure what this has to do with privacy.
Extra features require a subscription, big fucking surprise.
You can self-host, but that could be an actual privacy nightmare.
Bitwarden ! Host it yourself.
Vaultwarden 😎
Will host that myself eventually, but a little scared by hardware prices. All I have is a desktop PC with a 700W PSU, probably unsuitable as a home lab.
Answer for all
“yourmom”
proton is owned by a fascist. avoid shit owned by fascists if you can.
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he’s been caught cozying up to fascists. i think he took down the most damning tweets where he publicly praised trump.
It’s more that he’s comfortable associating with fascists than one outright (I don’t know that we know enough about his own political stances).
Shortly after Trump was elected a second time, he tweeted, “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned,” (https://archive.ph/iKaz3). Which, like…the first time Trump won, I might see; the second time – though –, Trump’s made clear his desire to threaten and harm everyone within reach. The further along we go in his second term, the more he’s followed through on what he’d been promising the entire campaign.
While I, likewise, disagree with the tech. inclinations of certain camps of the Democrats, that by and far wouldn’t convince me to throw my support behind the fascist leader who’s spent 8 years, now, harming and indicating he’ll harm huge swaths of communities and populations.
As far as I know, that’s usually what people are referring to and the precariousness of trusting an individual who’d make decisions like this.
Yeah, I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt (because sunk cost fallacy), but this is only one of a number of issues I’ve had with them and I need to be more quick to acknowledge grift when I know I see it.
For the password and passkeys manager I went with a selfhosted solution: AliasVault on an VPS and it’s really great! If you have a domain name you can have unlimited aliases with it’s built in email server (with a subdomain and for receiving email only so you don’t have to worry about being blacklisted)
The installation script is making everything for you, even fetching the TLS certificate from “let’s encrypt”
There’s Android and iOs support as well as add-ons for most browsers
I’m going to go with Keepass and Syncthing.
I know someone that signed up for an account with them, they froze it immediately for suspicious activity. He does nothing with that IP address, reads, social media, that’s it. No way to get off the shit list without giving up personal information like a phone number and or alternate email and no guarentee that would fix it.
Their IP was on a blacklist from some shady company for some strange reason. But other companies let you write the company and plead your case, proton does not.
They further suspended a bunch of accounts based on some half baked unproven accusations by the government(s) if I recall.
They aren’t trustworthy, they will give you up at the first sign of friction it appears.
That happened to me. I wasn’t even on a VPN when I created my first and only Proton account, and within minutes they restricted it so I couldn’t send any mail. They said I would have to upgrade to a paid account if I wanted to send mail.
I would never trust Proton after that. I’m just glad they immediately restricted my account instead of waiting until I’d switched everything over.
Check your ip against the lists of blacklists, there are sites that do it directly from the search page, there are a few dozen blacklists supposedly for spam and the like.
I suspect israel critics get dropped on them. A brazillian firm did the one we found.
Interesting theory and I’ve definitely made posts and comments critical of Israel. I’ve switched ISPs since creating that Proton account and I wonder if they’d restrict me again (not going to try though).
Hey mods just saying… I think a lot of us would appreciate having rules against posts like these.
Andy yen is not gonna fuck you, bro
Should we not be allowed to host discussions, or make criticisms of companies who claim to support privacy, in a community about privacy?
Hey mods just saying… I think a lot of us would appreciate having rules against comments like these.
why? (honest question)
It’s empty venting, and the topic is not about privacy in a meaningful capacity, it’s about a business model.
Allowing venting/drama/gossip threads in a community over time will push out the people (like myself) who care about the actual community topic. And when those people are gone what’s left is a cesspit.
It’s a post criticising a popular privacy-focused company. Some people in this community may want to avoid this company’s products if they know about stuff like this happening. What the fuck is the problem here exactly?
There’s no need to get upset. If you truly are having difficulty understanding my feelings on the topic and are asking in good faith, I’ll explain it one more time:
The topic of this post is that a company is charging money for it’s services. That violates the third rule in the sidebar.
Whatever mine or your feelings on the topic, it has nothing to do with privacy.
The person here wasn’t mad about Proton charging money. They were mad that when they signed up to the service and entrusted login information to Proton it was not a restricted feature, but now Proton has started to request money for it and they can’t get access to it again.
Not to mention this person is already a paying customer, they just don’t pay the 13 dollars Proton started requesting to store a couple bytes of data, or at the very least provide temporary access for backup.
The topic of this post is that a company is charging money for altering what was previously not a restricted feature. That violates the third rule in the sidebar.
I agree OP has a right to be upset, but this post has nothing to do with privacy.
