In the US “sleet” is the term for a winter precipitation that occurs when snow falls through a layer of warm air and melts into water droplets, then re-freezes into ice pellets as it passes through colder air closer to the ground. In many other areas that were part of the British empire that precipitation is called “ice pellets” and “sleet” instead refers to a mix of snow and rain. In the US that’s called a “wintry mix.”

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    Come to think of it, I’ve never really bothered thinking about what sleet is. I’ve always just put it in the “you know it when you see it” category.

    If I pummel my brain for what I would describe it as, I’d say it’s wet, heavy snow in a wind. Like “really soft hail” I suppose.

    But yeah…I never bothered. Interesting thought experiment for myself.

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      Where are you from? Based on your and OPs descriptions I’m guessing a Commonwealth country.

      Being from the U.S. I’d have described it as frozen drops of rain.

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        Canada.

        “Frozen drops of rain” makes sense too. I picture it as, “Imagine a raindrop hits your windshield, and instead of thunking like a raindrop, it’s kind of splats like a tiny tiny snowball.” That’s sleet.

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          In the U.S. sleet bounces off the windshield instead. I think we’d call Canadian sleet wet snow. OP said we’d call it “wintry mix” which maybe some of us would but I always thought “wintry mix” was when you were on the line between snow and rain and you just got a bit of everything; snow, sleet, slush, freezing rain, etc…

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            From Ohio, and to me sleet is several things

            Wet snow/rain mix

            Tiny frozen spheres that aren’t big enough to be called hail

            Snow/tiny hail mix

            Any combination of the three, really.

            Mostly it boils down to “not snow or rain or hail”, and “wintry mix” is something I never heard until adulthood.

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      If its winter, you walk outside and the precipitation is very loud and stings like hell when it hits you it’s sleet.

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          Freezing rain to me is water that freezes on impact, and it very quickly becomes a problem for trees and roofs and everything.

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            Yes, around here the difference between freezing rain and sleet is that freezing rain is liquid until it lands and it freezes on contact with a cold surface and sleet is solid as it comes down.

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          It doesn’t hail in the winter, and hail is larger. Hail comes down in pellets due to the fact that it’s made by water droplets falling down, getting blown back up into a cold cloud, freezing, getting blown back up to freeze some more, and so on until it’s heavy enough to overcome the updraft and fall to the ground. Sleet is like rain that freezes as its falling, but doesn’t become the soft gentle snow, and the difference between sleet and freezing rain is that freezing rain is liquid until it hits a frozen surface.

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    Im here in the Midwest and sleet here is anything with a gas station slushy consistency as it’s falling. It’s slush on the ground, but sleet in the air.

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      I’m in Ontario and would agree. But I’d also call say it’s sleet if it’s little ice pellets that move like sand. Probably because when it happens (which us rare for us) it oscillates between the phases several times in the same storm.

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      Hail is precip that has been able to repeatedly rise and fall on air currents, building up in size. What they’re referring to as sleet is essentially just crunchy snow in size and texture.

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      Hail is larger and is created from strong winds tumbling and freezing layers onto ice in a storm. Sleet (either definition) and hail are quite different.

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      Hail is formed through a completely different process and is a spring/summer precip type associated with thunderstorms. It forms as water gets lifted high into the atmosphere from updrafts in the thunderstorm then fall before getting lifted again. Hail often shows layers (like a jawbreaker) and can grow very large.

      In the US, sleet/graupel is essentially just a frozen raindrop and is a winter precip type. Wintry mix is what the US National Weather Service uses for any mix of rain, snow, sleet, graupel, and freezing rain. The WMO and Europe use Ice Pellets for frozen raindrops and Sleet for mixed rain and snow. So both are official terms depending on where you are.

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          Yes, hail is from thunderstorms and is generally larger, ice pellets are winter precipitation and almost always smaller. Hail usually lasts only a few minutes, ice pellets can last many hours.

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          Sleet is basically crunchy snow. Very slightly larger, a bit harder, not really a danger to much of anything it falls on. You don’t get golf ball sized sleet, you get like, half-a-pea-sized sleet.

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        Yes! This is also my understanding. I’ve even experienced hail in hot tropical countries.

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      I had to go looking to see if there was a distinction. There is!

      Hail is a form of solid precipitation.[1] It is distinct from ice pellets (American English “sleet”), though the two are often confused.[2] It consists of balls or irregular lumps of ice, each of which is called a hailstone.[3] Ice pellets generally fall in cold weather, while hail growth is greatly inhibited during low surface temperatures.

      Unlike other forms of water ice precipitation, such as graupel (which is made of rime ice), ice pellets (which are smaller and translucent), and snow (which consists of tiny, delicately crystalline flakes or needles), hailstones usually measure between 5 mm (0.2 in) and 15 cm (6 in) in diameter.[1] The METAR reporting code for hail 5 mm (0.20 in) or greater is GR, while smaller hailstones and graupel are coded GS.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail

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      I would say the same and I’m from the southern US. Everyone I know would say the same. I’ve never heard anyone, IRL or the news or online, say hail is sleet.

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    As someone from the U.S. I have never heard of “wintry mix”. I currently live on the west coast, but I always grew up that wet mix of snow/rain/water on the ground as “slush”. Each country has its own regional dialects

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      Sleet has always been the slushy stuff near me. Hail is the hard frozen ice pellets that can crack a windshield. I don’t know what OP is talking about.

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        intresting. was looking and asking around, it seem, (agian as a person who lives in a west coast area where we get about 0 snow). “Wintry mox” seems like it might be used to mean a combo of rain/sleet/snow, so while the “ice pellets” are still called “sleet” you might say its “wintry mix” bcs there might be sleet/snow/rain on the ground or around.

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    In US Pacific Northwest and never in my life have I heard of “ice pellets” or “wintry mix”

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    I didn’t know it required a freeze-thaw-freeze cycle either. I’d always been under the impression it was just rain that froze before hitting the ground.

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    You are missing a piece of information, the British use of the term sleet predates the formation of the USA.

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    I’ve never heard of winter mix. What you describe I’ve always heard and called sleet. Anyone I know of in the West has called it sleet. If ice pellets were falling it would be called an ice storm, not A mixture of snow and rain.

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        Freezing rain is different. It’s water droplets that freeze as they hit. Less sleet and more rain. Imo.

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          Right, a significant amount of that is what we would refer to as an ice storm.

          This is getting confusing…

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      Same here, sleet is like half frozen snow, slush kind of rain, only definition I have seen used in the upper midwest.

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    In Spain “coger” means to take something. In most south American countries that same verb means to fuck.

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      Wintry mix in my part of costal New England generally refers to when the temp is fluctuating atound freezing, causing precip to come down as alternating / indeterminate area to area snow / sleet/ freezing rain. The worry being that the slushy mess will then freeze on the ground when the temperature drops.

      For instance the radio station forecast yesterday was snow all day giving way to wintry mix from 9-11, then the temp dropping back to being snow 12-1 (when it cooled back down)

      Which it did. We got like a foot of show, then it rained for an hour, then we got another hour of snow.

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    Where I’m at in the NW US, the icy pellets are called ‘graupel’, the slushy snow/rain is “sleet”. Sometimes the weather guys call it “wintry mix” but I haven’t heard it outside that.

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    Hah, have you ever noticed that the meaning of “quite” is quite different depending on whether the person saying it is from USA or from England? :) On one side of the pond it means the same as “somewhat”, while on the other side it means “very”.