His head on a pike would be preferrable to both.
Legalise it plz.
What an absolute cunt
“now if you just sign here to buy our Stasi-Bot…”
Ahh yes. The only 2 options
Breaking News.
Man with vested interest in selling his services, insists buying his services is the only way to save us from the evil foreign menace
If you read his book The Technological Republic, he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state. A few historical examples to choose from would be Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Communist China to get an idea of his vision for America’s future.
What? The man who rivals the spying ability of many nations isnt totally on the up and up? Whuda thunkit!
How would a surveillance state even prevent that?
If you beat them at it, they can’t do it themselves! Duh! Oh, wait.
Man who is the CEO of a business selling mass surveillance beyond the likes of even George Orwell’s 1984 says we should run head first into a surveillance state from which he will directly profit from.
Look at this unfuckable loser. He’s like if someone glued Steve Bannon’s pubes to Steven Miller’s head. “Let us destroy all freedom in the USA so China doesn’t win the race to economically out-compete the USA” is as bullshit a justification as there has ever been for anything in the history of everything.
Hell no
Let me second that… Oh hell, no
Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to
China Winning the AI RacePlanatir shareholders not getting rich fast enoughFixed it
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The public needs public mass surveillance on CEOs and the top 1% only. They are the top threat to the world
1000% this.
They’re predators, both sexually and economically, and society has let them get away with their plans for far too long.
There is that quick and funny operation that you can do using guilotine (or anything you can get your hands on if you’re creative enough!) that significantly reduce the need for oversight. I agree we should put monitoring around the mass grave in case those ghouls can actually get up. It’s a stretch, but better safe than sorry.
Sure but it’s looking a lot more likely that the mass graves will be for the working class
China WILL win the AI race and that’s because they invested in infrastructure and their power grid.
The US could have done that too, but we gave the money to billionaires instead. Building a surveillance state doesn’t fix any of the mistakes we made and they’ll still win the AI race.
Not to sound like a tankie but China has made smarter decisions with regard to power generation. The current shift away from renewables (and shift back to fossil fuel) AND more reliance on central power generation are great for billionaires but just dumb for every other reason. And with the what appears to be advancing in battery technology more distributed solar cells with local storage would free up more power for the power hungry data centers. Not to mention the AI programs there are not run by douchebags like Sam Altman and Mustafa Suleyman.
I also think the current path of AGI study via more advanced LLM research is the wrong path. A language generator is never going to be “smart”. But what do I know, I don’t have billions of dollars and lie constantly.
It’s not Tankie to admit aspects of reality. China is doing some things well. China has spent the last 20 years investing in itself, America has spent the last 20 years investing in other countries for a possible ROI for the military-industrial complex.
What would be Tankie would be to then extrapolate from that and say they’re actually the best state in the world and anyone who says otherwise is a imperialist brainwashed pigdog.
So we need to start covert anti-corruption efforts n China, since China will win, we don’t want a single party member destroying the world…I don’t know what we can actually do, but it is crucial for the human race that China develops more benevolent values if at all possible.
I don’t know what we can actually do
Make it easier for Chinese Nationals to study abroad, educate them on the idea of government transparency, separation of powers, checks and balances, the idea that government legitimacy comes from the people, idea of social contract, etc… Hope they bring back the knowledge to fix the country from within.
(Btw, Overseas Chinese helped topple the Qing Regime and ended monarchism.)
I get a sense that in the CCP, you wouldn’t get into any position with actual influence unless your peers and superiors have some leverage on you (they know you’ve done done shady shit which they can expose if you become a nuisance).
So in that way, actually interparty radicalism is curtailed.
Both CCP and US Republicans are evil, but republicans are also stupid.
Evil would obviously win against Evil+Stupid
“A surveillance state is needed to beat china who is evil because it’s a surveillance state”
The difference between developed world democracies and other governments is that all opposition parties are allied with CIA and by transposition, Israel. Divisiveness purely to achieve maximum corruption is formula for rulership, and praising “freedom supremacy” is just a tool for corrupt warmongering. The only protection from CIA overthrow is to fight their hybrid control, and disruptive terrorism, operations. Chinese government is not trying to oppress their citizens or economic pluralism. If surveillance allows unattended ebike charging, and no crime, then that is a net benefit compared to loss of making WInnie the Poo jokes.
Palantir, more than all other US tech oligarchs, is dedicated to Israel supremacy, and Israel/Palantir now embraces full Trump/MAGA platform because fascism is more pro Israel/Oligarchy than pluralism. The absurd pace of AI investment in US is entirely based on the certainty that the US govermnent/military will buy all of the datacenter time. Destroying US economy to feed tech and climate terrorist energy oligarchs.
War on China and Russia is a losing proposition for both humanity and the west. Collapse is destined because for the last 25 years, “we must bankrupt ourselves, or humanity wins” has been the bipartisan CIA/Israel mantra that no one ever challenges, and news media feeds 24/7.
All big tech is firmly allied with US empire, and all of them are very polite to MAGA/Israel, with data collection used to help it. Palantir has the software to mine it effectively. US oligarchy, Palantir/OpenAI/Oracle/Tesla has been especially desperate this week. All the money, explicitly, must be given to them or China wins. It’s not even core science/technology anymore, its pure software/datacenter oligarch giveaways needed.
Chinese government is not trying to oppress their citizens
yes they are
I will never understand the hypocritical surveillance state apologism when it comes to China or Russia on this site.
If China’s surveillance state was purely for the benefit of their citizens, they wouldn’t need such an extensive censorship apparatus that frequently censors minorities and minority beliefs (e.g. LGBT topics) as well as content that reflects particularly poorly on the government.
I will never understand the hypocritical surveillance state apologism when it comes to China or Russia on this site.
People get brainwashed to conform, when they don’t like a side they urge to pick another
Precisely. Just ask Naomi Wu (SexyCyborg) how much she enjoys the surveillance state, how much she enjoyed being disappeared for a few months, how much she enjoys being told not to do any more techno State Resistance content, and how much she enjoys being able to leave but can’t, because her partner is queer.
Really, its a bunch of people who either like being in an in-group and/or they like feeling superior/powerful by promoting authoritarian communism.
So no different the America. Just that America is going after the “Illegals” right now.
why is this the staple response? “yeah but america”
Right? How about neither option? How about Authoritarianism is bad, regardless of who’s doing it?
Two things can be bad at the same time.
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If China’s surveillance state was purely for the benefit of their citizens, they wouldn’t need such an extensive censorship apparatus
The freedom to lie and defraud, with money = speech, therefore money = terrorism, fraud, oppression is not constructive. Divisiveness and hate is not constructive. Inviting CIA to dominate your country’s speech is inviting terrorism, fraud, oppression as we see in every US colony.
Repressing American Oligarchist values propaganda is necessary for any constructive society. Nothing about them has the slightest humanist value. Gay pride is just as much a supremacist overstep as religious pride. AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion. The supremacism is oppressed. CIA needs the divisiveness of supremacism/evangelism in order to destroy/conquer vassals.
AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion.
You don’t know shit about fuck.
There’s a difference between the freedom to be gay (exists in Russia), and the freedom to advocate for LGBT supremacism with CIA funding.
This seems like a) you didn’t read the article, and b) that you yourself are homophobic.
Everybody Sucks Here
It’s hard to tell if a post like this is intentional propaganda, or just “the enemy of my enemy must be my friend” brainwashed babbling.
I think fundamentally a lot of people do not understand that just because China and Russia (or a number of other countries) are in opposition to the US doesn’t inherently make them “good.” They’re pretty much all shitty too, just in different ways than the US, yet actual problems get brushed off as “the loss of making Winnie the Poo jokes,” as if not being able to make jokes on Weibo is the problem.
Western governments are complete fucking corrupt shit. China’s simply is not, but at very least, not purposed to collapse and destroy itself or its society. The propaganda mill is the one telling you your democracy is working. If only DNC can regain power, then we can fortunately restart the full fledged support for war on Iran and Russia, and finally achieve Trump’s 5% of GDP for military spending target.
Look at Covid response. Is trying to keep deaths at 0, oppressing its people? US government policy was to destroy blue cities through overwhelming pandemic, and side with those complaining about the inconvenience of public safety, by forcing workers into the crowded mines.
I didn’t mean to imply that China’s government is perfect. But as long as CIA desires its destruction, divisive/treasonous/oligarchist speech cannot be permitted. My main point is the absolute complete corrupt evil shit our governments are. The megalomaniacal alliance forces world to be shit too, though, to return to controversy, the free world is actually the non-US aligned world.
The propaganda mill is the one telling you your democracy is working
do you mean this as your countrys democracy, or democracy (as concept) in general?
Democracy in general is supposed to lead to truth and pluralism. An establishment preferring to retain power will fake democracy as a tool to validate that power. This/democracy provides the result you deserve.
Two things can be bad at the same time.
Instead of “China is not trying to oppress its citizens” it’d be more accurate to say that China is not in the state of advanced decline that requires [as much] oppression of its citizens to maintain power and control. Everything else, unfortunately, is spot on.
Even left as-is, it’s a far cry from “intentional propaganda”. What motive would there even be to spread such? Do you imagine hordes of self-hating Americans, Chinese bots and shills, and China stans are behind every post that criticizes the U.S. and praises China? Or that someone somehow managed to “brainwash” a significant portion of the population into believing complete fabrications and/or turning their allegiance to China?
The reality is that most people have a far easier time believing pleasant fictions and ignoring inconvenient facts than they do swallowing their pride and conceding to an enemy. On the Internet it’s pretty much everyone, and the rare exceptions must be eradicated. Case in point.
“x country has GOOD state surveillance of its people. Not BAD surveillance of its people like Y country” can only ever be propaganda.
its silly to pretend otherwise and we’re not having a serious conversation at this point.
But I do imagine that every single post which promotes, as a positive, the oppression of a people’s freedom and dignity by their own government, is either propaganda or the product of a loathing so deep it manifests in an illogical rose tinted view of any perceived competitor.
Actual humans believe life without Palantir is preferable to China winning the AI race.
Well this Palantir the originals can stay, those that were not lost.
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