sidenote, are memes allowed? it doesn’t say anything about them not being allowed, but I don’t see anybody posting any 🤷♀️
I personally just check the db0 megathread and torrent from there, sometimes I watch online because I cant be bothered to download tho
You can stream popular torrents. It can be challenging with more niche content (unless you’re on private trackers), but you’re not going to find niche content streams in the first place.
Not to mention XDCC over IRC
I actually maintain my own xdcc download client
They can’t even eat Hot Chip? 🤯
They can’t even drink Driz Izzle.
in this economy?
I don’t know if this meme is fully ironic, but kind of strange to think “torrenting” is considered the OG piracy method now.
For me personally, the OG pirating was buying bootleg VHSs/CDs/DVDs. But torrenting/P2P was the first mass scale digital piracy method.
torrenting/P2P was the first mass scale digital piracy method.
IRC? Napster? Edonkey? Emule? Kademlia?
And, hell, before that there was that guy in class who for five bucks would burn you a CD with any game you wanted, which he probably got off usenet…
And of course for music there was the old double deck cassette copier…
(Personally the first software crack I remember was dismantling Monkey Island’s “dial a pirate” wheel so I could photocopy it to share with friends after copying the diskettes…)
Your list is compromised primarily of P2P networks and a DHT?
Older methods still best methods.
Test Drive 3 had a pretty complicated wheel.
I remember those copy protections. Go to page 6, line 42, word 3
Damn, I miss when games came with manuals… the anticipation when reading them while coming back home from the store…
It’s old but it’s not even close to the OG. I believe the OG is newsgroups, and after that was p2p file sharing apps like limewire and napster, and only then did torrenting become a big thing
I’m gonna ignore non internet based methods. Here is the evolution imo
- BBS
- Usenet & warez websites
- Server client setups (Hotline etc)
- P2P without resuming (Napster etc)
- P2P W/resume & multiple sources (Kazaa, LimeWire etc)
- Torrents
- Streaming torrents
- Usenet
Edit: I’m seeing IRC a lot, not sure where it fits in this list. Assume it’s around no 2.
Great list! And according to your list I’m right. BBSes aren’t internet, and usenet is a synonym for newsgroups
This is the correct list, having lived through it. BBS services in the mid-1980s were the start of Razor1911, Paradox and other distro and cracker groups. I’d edit 2 to include FTP which is what BBS evolved into with secret dropsites for new releases.
IRC is 2.5 on this list. You can group that alongside the pre-web internet services, like AOL which had slightly IRC-like chat rooms dedicated to serving warez and videos in the same way (requesting a list from a chatbot, and then requesting sequential files).
Some light history here, though like all warez-related scholarship, there’s a ton missing that you had to have seen to know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene
https://archive.org/details/b904a8eb-9c98-4bb1-bf25-3cb9d075b157/
Original method wasn’t FTP?
Copying cassettes
Those were the times when my ISP, which was owned 100% by the city, had it’s own newsgroups server full of warez lol
Yeah, I imagine to younger folks it feels like what usenet felt like to me when I was their age. Mystical land of unknown loot, if you know how to get there
It does feel like zoomies and kids in general have lost a lot of technical knowledge when it comes to computers.
There was a short while when everyone had computers at home, and we became skilled with them because we grew up with them. But those computers were pretty quickly replaced with tablets and phones, leaving the majority of younger generations with much less computer experience.
Because of the locked-down nature and simplified UI design of mobile platforms, they weren’t able to learn skills like navigating file systems or the many tools in document and art programs they would have found on PC.
Rather than being an edutainment tool, mobile devices have offered cheap dopamine hits and predatory monetization. The fact that we know this and do nothing to correct it is incredibly sad.
We’re doomed to help our parents AND our kids.
cries in millennial
most yes, some no. Some are fucking geniuses
also, my blame is 1000% on the schools. They lock down computers so much the button to make a FOLDER was disabled… in highschool
Funny, I remember being in middle school and getting detention for playing a RS private server called hackscape, clearly I was intending to hack the school.
Meanwhile I found the network drive and constantly deleted a bullys progress in our keyboarding course lmao, they never figured that one out.
I hear if you torrent you get a nastygram from your ISP. Meanwhile, I hear if you find a site that offers to stream it for free, nothing bad happens. Also I hear that Yandex gives better results for such sites than Google or DDG/Bing.
I hear rumors being eastern european negates the nastygram, but that’s just a rumour.
Ukrainian here, pretty eastern European. ISP doesn’t make enough money to care.
Lithuanian ISPs also really don’t care the worst that happened is the government shutdown a film site but it is back online.
If you’re in Canada those nastygrams are merely scare tactics, generally.
And i live in a country that doesnt give a shit about piracy ,:)
I hear VPNs exist. Though that could be a rumour.
it’s slopsay
For now they still do…
They’ll never know the magic (read: virus minefield) that was WinMX, Kazaa, Limewire, etc.
Or the even worse era of trolling IRC chats looking for DCC bots and hoping your feeble attempts at security or obfuscation will hold. Ah, the good ol days.
Grab list, found what you wanted… As 49 separate downloads, on one busy bot.
While on dialup.
Admittedly, the small file chunks made sense on dialup, but man did it suck when you’d end up with 102 of 110 files and then they’d vanish.
Oh definitely, but wow did it suck when they went offline… You just keep those parts around unless you can find another bot to start and complete a whole other download of different sized split rars…
I’ve never heard of this before. I was on IRC in the oughts, probably a bit late to see it happening. Neat.
By that point there were other options that were more popular, yeah. Xdcc as a script for ircii came out around 1995ish, maybe a bit earlier. Early 2000s would be around when mirc scripts had xdcc bots built in, so well after they first became common.
At that point you also had Napster, kazaa, limewire, even the first bittorrent client (BitTorrent).
Warez websites with 9/10 links broken ftw
xdcc msg MoViEgOdz! get pack
*starts downloading hardcore goat sex*
"Ah shit, I meant 127”
xdcc msg MoViEgOdz! cancel 128
*goat sex downloads even faster*
“…well, at least it’ll be educational”Wouldst thou like to live deliciously?
Just do it now. Only like 8 other people are using DCC, so it’s obfuscation in itself
I reinstalled Windows like every other week 😅
Soulseek was the best
Was
Is.* Nicotine+ is the client to make it even better.
I was born after 2000, and use soulseek to this day.
*is
Ah limewhire where you went to download ripped halo 3 roms and ended up with a few GB of amature porn
my favorite was the Madonna song that was just Madonna saying “What the fuck do you think you’re doing?” over and over again for three minutes, and then someone made a dance remix of it and uploaded it again
I pulled down some random ass pop song, and it ended up being some guy noodling on a keyboard playing a half assed version of the cantina song from Star Wars. I set it to my phone’s ringtone. No idea when that mp3 was long, it was a LONG time ago
I downloaded an Elvis song with a mispelled song title, and for a while I would refer to it as “Quspicious Minds” and sing along
Quspicious Minds sounds like a documentary on the Qanon movement
i did not have sexual relations with that woman
I downloaded Rammstein’s Amerika but it was like just one specific verse and chorus repeated. It was really weird. It took my a while to notice because I didn’t know German. My best guess is someone took a free sample of the song from somewhere and edited it so it was longer by repeating it a couple times.
Also, a few of the Nightwish songs I downloaded had an announcer in the middle of the bridge say something like “You are listening to Nightwish’s new song Blah on the album Once.” Maybe it said something about being able to buy it on iTunes. That one was interesting because it definitely seemed legit. I guess some artists released stuff like that knowing people would steal regardless so they wanted a version with instructions to buy it if you liked it. To this day when I’m listening to those songs I hear the voice in my head when the song gets to those parts.
I used to have a couple of songs where there was a skip because of an error in the CD rip, now when I listen to the song and the skip is missing I find it jarring
Same! Yes! I specifically remember one my (then) girlfriend (now wife) made like that. She made me a mix of some songs. I put them on my mp3 player so they had that slip in them on that too. Even on my first smart phone too back before I streamed music.
Let them be the fodder for the authorities
It’s the other way around, torrents are monitored, downloads on webpages are not (unless they use P2P streaming)
The big difference is that with torrents you also upload data to other peers, which is what fucks you copyright-wise.
Also remember kids, if you’re not in the US throw those DMCA claims in the trash
If you’re in the EU, downloading without uploading is also illegal, just hard to track for the copyright firms.
Maybe for public trackers, I’ve never had an issue on private trackers. But pirate streaming sites are taken down fairly frequently
the magic word here is “HTTPS”. Prior to encrypted downloads being the norm, it was trivial for your ISP (and presumably, the feds) to see what sites you were visiting and what you downloaded from them. With HTTPS, at best it’s possible to know what site you’re communicating with and how much data you’ve sent to and received from them, but not what the data actually is. (Unless of course the site’s logs get seized, which could contain records of which files were requested by which IP addresses)
It’s wrong, but also, it’s right a surprisingly good amount of the time.
actually as a millenial i left the torrenting world when i graduated and got a job back in 2015. Now when i want to return, I realized I am old and don’t know the best places to get good torrents. I searched on one of the websites of tpb last year and nothing came up.
I am rusty and don’t have much time but i am starting to feel the bullshit by streaming companies now and i need to get back on the horse.
There are quite a few apps on Linux that will let you dl music from streaming sites and keep it if you have a subscription. My personal favourite is qobuz-dl. I have pretty much all of my favourite movies still from way-back-when but usually don’t downloading new ones as 1) streamio with torrentio is so effective and 2) they don’t make 'em like they used to.
https://fmhy.net/ all you need right here!
thanks for the deets I have some thing to do for christmas
Qbittorrent and https://wiki.dbzer0.com/piracy/megathread/
thanks for the deets I know what i will do for christmas!
iptorrents, it’s a bit of a scummy private tracker but you can donate a few bucks to get in and they have pretty much everything. It’s a good first in for private trackers. Keep in mind with private trackers, you typically need to seed whatever you download for at least 14 days.
The best site right now (in my lazy opinion) is
qbittorrent is the best client these days. uTorrent went and did some bad stuff that I can’t remember off the top of my head.
You should really get a VPN to keep your isp from bothering you about it. I use Private Internet Access (PIA) because it’s relatively cheap, has port forwarding, and doesn’t store any user data.
That’s the basics. Happy sailing matey. Remember to seed to a ratio of at least 2!
real debrid for the win.
Wait, is torrenting actually dying out?
Not sure of statistics. But imo judging by the picture of media as of today, torrenting is either growing or changing into usenet.
i kid you not my roommate watched a movie someone posted on Twitter
Nah, not until all of the GenXers and Xennials die out at least
It’s still somewhat big in certain regions, even younger people torrent (although streaming piracy is more popular).
I’ve watched so much free anime by being bisexual
Wtf is torrent
They mean the magnet I think
its just advertising places “to rent”, like craigslist, but for films. Sometimes the rent is free
I think its means like a whole bunch of water all at once depending on context
I am so old I remember most of the pirate stuff and did all of it. I am pissed at myself for disconnecting drives and messing up boot order, won’t boot so far. I had an old pc (still do) they were IDE drives in it. The boot drive was over one 1tb and needed special driver to break the 1tb barrier. I think it was from Acronis’ partition editor. I have at least 300gb in flac music, tons of movies (mostly yify). One day I hope to revive it if I can find an anything partition reader so I can nab it of the drives. I will make it available for everyone to grab an old slice of pirating.
